Bidding farewell to Google Code • Hacker News Board

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by BinaryIdiot » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:37 PM UTC

jszymborski wrote: post #123

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #114

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I've used GitLab before as an enterprise type installation and it was okay but I had no idea you offered GitHub like hosting. When I visit your site it looks like there are no free options but Google Code was meant to house open source projects for free just like GitHub and BitBucket. Do you have free hosting for open source? If not then I don't think it makes sense for them to mention your service. Edit: As pointed…

Both open and private repos on GitLab are free :D

Okay thanks I found that info here https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/

Figured I'd find it on the home page or under pricing or something.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by spankalee » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:38 PM UTC

gtaylor wrote: post #115

munificent wrote: post #75

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How is this even a failure? Google Code was the best at what it did for several years. Now it's not. That doesn't eradicate the time in the past where it provided real value to millions of users. A party isn't a failure just because everyone eventually has to go home. It just means even successful things have ends.

> How is this even a failure? Google Code was the best at what it did for several years. Google Code had a few good years, and I am grateful that it happened. However, it did fail to win the software forge battle as the space heated up. It failed to evolve enough to keep up. It failed to keep the mindshare it built in those two initial years as Github and others blew past it over the next six. So call it for what it…

It actually can be considered a success in the style of the original intent of Chrome, Fiber, the Nexus line, and who knows, maybe the upcoming MVNO: to spur innovation and increased investment in a stagnating product area.

When Google Code came out Source Forge was horrible, and Github didn't exist. Google Code helped both open source software and the market for code hosting. Now there's a dominant, but so far so great, offering with Github, and several very good competitors.

Google Code wouldn't have even launched today, it's both necessary to projects and to Google.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by the_mitsuhiko » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:38 PM UTC

ericfontaine wrote: post #121

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #108

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I really don't think that blog post is the place to pitch code hosting websites. Github (and to a lesser degree bitbucket) are websites that are exactly in the space where Google Code and before that Sourceforge were. Gitlab is not.

I think it is fair to for GitLab to pitch their service, considering that the google code blogspot post specifically mentioned both GitHub 8 times and Bitbucket 3 times, while GitLab offers similar functionality. It would have been fairer for the blog to not-specifically endorse anything or post a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_source_code_soft...

> I think it is fair to for GitLab to pitch their service, considering that the google code blogspot post specifically mentioned both GitHub 8 times and Bitbucket 3 times, while GitLab offers similar functionality.

The only thing similar between gitlab and github is that they do something with version control. Gitlab is not a place for open source projects.

The projects with the most stars on gitlab s gitlab itself with 221 stars right now. Even the smallest nodejs project achieves that popularity on github.

There are many other hosting services like gitlab, what would make gitlab different so that it would deserve a pitch there?

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:39 PM UTC

nothrabannosir wrote: post #112

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Not at all, that's 100% the point of most open source licenses. Which are compulsory for a project on GC. E.g. MIT: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sel…

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Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by rdtsc » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:41 PM UTC

Anyone else scared of the Github monoculture?

I am.

For all the touted distributed version control advantages we now have one world global centralized repo. Yeah, yeah, I know you can clone it locally. But of course if all the issues, and testing, and build tools are tied to Github. Isn't it a bit disconcerting?

Maybe I am just paranoid. And not saying that Google code was going anywhere, I saw more and more projects switch to Github and Google code receiving less and less attention.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by snowwrestler » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:41 PM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #62

cdibona wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I wanted to let you know (and I know this isn't a huge surprise) that we will be shutting down the Google Code project hosting system over the next year. Wired did a nice story about Github that touches on the shutdown: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/github-conquered-google-microso... I'll be hanging around answering questions, but the short form of 'why' is that it just isn't used much anymore, ourselves…

From the comments "What will happen to things that are hosted on google code, like jquery and the google font set? Thousand, if not millions of pages link to these directly - will they all be invalidated? "

I hope those millions of pages are not linking into Google Code URLs, which are repos for developers. I don't think popular libraries like jquery core and fonts even have Google Code URLs.

They should be linking into Google's Hosted Libraries, which are separate and will continue AFAIK:

https://developers.google.com/speed/libraries/devguide

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:44 PM UTC

gjtorikian wrote: post #119

sytse wrote: post #84

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Thanks for the love furry! We're seeing more people switch, including many from Gitorious. We try to combine the advantages of a good interface and free repositories.

> including many from Gitorious That's a bit disingenuous. GitLab purchased Gitorious--of course people are switching.

Sorry, it would have been better to say we acquired them, thanks for noting this.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by rossj » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

tjohns wrote: post #129

rogerbinns wrote: post #122

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Please can you add a way for projects on google code to do a redirect to wherever they have gone. I moved all my projects late 2013, put notices on all pages I could etc, but still searching for the project often shows the google code site first. https://code.google.com/p/apsw/ Google Code did one thing very well - each project could have one wiki and issue tracker, but any number of source code repos. This is fantas…

Google Code already has an option to flag a project as moved. From your project: Administer > Advanced > Project Moved For an example of what this looks like: http://code.google.com/p/iosched

That's great, until code.google.com no longer resolves, at which point it won't help :( Would be nice if they used that info to automatically redirect to the new site.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #131

jszymborski wrote: post #123

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Both open and private repos on GitLab are free :D

Okay thanks I found that info here https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ Figured I'd find it on the home page or under pricing or something.

It is the third link on the homepage, that says "Sign up for GitLab.com with unlimited free (private) repositories and collaborators.". But we're open to suggestions to make it more obvious. It is hard to communicate downloads and a saas.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by sytse » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

morbius wrote: post #117

pdknsk wrote: post #104

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https://about.gitlab.com/ "Better than GitHub" That's quite a motto.

It's a ballsy and maybe foolishly ambitious motto, but in Gitlab's case they actually deliver on it -- which, considering the current monopolization of project hosting is quite a feat unto itself.

Thanks Morbius!