Bidding farewell to Google Code • Hacker News Board

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:16 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

Obviously, they specifically closed it because everyone uses Github. I think the key selling point though for you guys, is not putting code on other peoples' servers at all, which is unlikely to be Google Code alums.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by nostrademons » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:17 PM UTC

baldfat wrote: post #7

So the move to GitHub by Google's open source code is the next step? I kept hearing from people "in the know" that moving to GitHub was a real possibility a long time ago.

The "move" started a couple years ago. I open-sourced a Google project about 18 months ago and the recommended hosting solution was GitHub:

https://github.com/google/gumbo-parser

(Ironically, when posted on Hacker News, one of the first comments was that it was ironic that it was posted to GitHub and not Google Code:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6210282

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by kristopolous » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:19 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #95

What's the median lifetime of free cloud services? It seems to be around 5 years. Someone probably tracks that. With SourceForge putting ads in installers, they're no longer a good option. This leaves GitHub in a monopoly position, which is worrisome. Especially given the terms: "GitHub, in its sole discretion, has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Serv…

Look into gitlab

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by pdknsk » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:20 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

https://about.gitlab.com/

"Better than GitHub"

That's quite a motto.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by eranation » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:20 PM UTC

cdibona wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I wanted to let you know (and I know this isn't a huge surprise) that we will be shutting down the Google Code project hosting system over the next year. Wired did a nice story about Github that touches on the shutdown: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/github-conquered-google-microso... I'll be hanging around answering questions, but the short form of 'why' is that it just isn't used much anymore, ourselves…

One thing that might be nice to do - if you see a project with high recent download stats (I'm sure there are a few) but their developers seem to have abandoned them, will you please do a courtesy backup to github, or perhaps notify people who starred it that the owners didn't mograte it to GitHub and the data will be lost unless someone does.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by cdibona » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:21 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

It is a very nice system, but the stuff that goes into a shutdown had me fighting to keep the message as tight as possible. I wanted to go on about Bitbucket, gitlab, and put in a long discussion about how this doesn't effect the scalable git team at google at all (we host android and chrome and a ton of internal teams on a git backed on our backends here) , but had to keep the message pure...

But I heartily recommend people look at Gitlab...

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by ajessup » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:21 PM UTC

dudus wrote: post #93

cdibona wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I wanted to let you know (and I know this isn't a huge surprise) that we will be shutting down the Google Code project hosting system over the next year. Wired did a nice story about Github that touches on the shutdown: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/github-conquered-google-microso... I'll be hanging around answering questions, but the short form of 'why' is that it just isn't used much anymore, ourselves…

It's true that Google does not use Google Code for any coding project anymore, but it's still used as a support interface. For instance if you want to file bugs for AppEngine the official way is through Google Code https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list What are the plans on moving this and other issue lists for different Google products out of Google Code?

PM on App Engine here. We'll continue to be using (and monitoring) the Google Code issue tracker until we have a robust alternative available.

We have plans for this, we're just not ready to talk about them yet.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by the_mitsuhiko » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:22 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #57

Hi Chris, GitLab CEO here. What do you think about mentioning Gitlab.com as an alternative for people to move to? It has unlimited (private) projects and unlimited collaborators. It is based the open source GitLab project.

I really don't think that blog post is the place to pitch code hosting websites. Github (and to a lesser degree bitbucket) are websites that are exactly in the space where Google Code and before that Sourceforge were.

Gitlab is not.

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by swills » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:22 PM UTC

I have to wonder, are we all really comfortable with GitHub being basically the only free code hosting option?

Yes, SourceForge(t) is still around, but with the talk of them injecting adware into downloads, I'm sure many wouldn't use them.

This leaves, what, BitBucket and running something yourself?

Re: Bidding farewell to Google Code

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Post by baggachipz » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:22 PM UTC

pbreit wrote: post #63

baggachipz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be feeding here, but the lesson is that you can't count on things Google releases to be around very long. Even APIs for popular products, like Google Maps. Just don't expect anything they release to have a long shelf life. It's annoying and it sucks, and it is now laughable when they tag things with phrases like "free code hosting forever" and so on. For them to change, they'd have to either: 1) Support every…

Why limited to google? You can't count on anything being around forever. But that is hardly revelatory.

I think people tend to hold large companies with far-reaching services to a higher standard in this regard. I'm not arguing that stance's validity, but if MS or Google or even Facebook (yes, I know) release a product or API, people assume that it will be well supported. Partly because of $large_company's deep pockets, and partially because it's assumed that those companies understand the far-reaching consequences of their actions and want to act responsibly.