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Re: Students are fleeing US law schools and pouring into engineering

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Post by conanbatt » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 3:26 PM UTC

sytelus wrote: post #103

conanbatt wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate with some stats or articles? The US, as far as I know, is by far the highest paying country to software engineers in the world, starting by 2-3x to rich countries. I seriously doubt ANY software engineer can make more money in China than in the US for any similar position of responsibility.

I've known quite a few people who return to their home countries and getting Director/VP positions moving from their previous titles of "Software Engineer" due to their US experience. There is a significant startup scene shaping up in Europe and Asia and so demand for US educated/experienced engineers is pretty high almost everywhere. US is revered as Mecca of software and startups pretty much everywhere so any exper…

Its probably that VP/Directors of whatever in Europe dont make nearly as much for the same position in the US, though its a good point that the experience gives you an edge for a higher paid position like that.

I still would not believe China pays software engineers more than the US, even at a leadership position, without some stats. China as much as India has vast lower "engineering" cast based on price.

I have not yet heard of people from Argentina returning to glory after working outside, it is expected to take a dent in income, even though argentina is much richer than China/India for these purposes.

Re: Students are fleeing US law schools and pouring into engineering

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Post by SilasX » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 5:10 PM UTC

wmil wrote: post #101

SilasX wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always suspected it was an artifact of the legal infrastructure failing to scale with demand. This chokes the courts and forces disputes to be settled outside of it (perhaps with a minimal final-stage "blessing" from a judge). The "demand" (number of disputes) increases with the number of interactions, which is roughly the square of the number of people (each pair is another potential dispute). So if - populatio…

> The "demand" (number of disputes) increases with the number of interactions, which is roughly the square of the number of people (each pair is another potential dispute). It wouldn't actually be a square of the population. There's a fairly low number of interactions a single person can have in a day. Plus most disputes that I can have with a person I don't know are criminal instead of civil.

Criminal or civil wouldn't matter; both require use of legal infrastructure, though criminal trials are even harder to "opt out of", which makes the process even more choked. (Lock you up for a year just in case you're guilty...)

And you have potential interactions with anyone within a given jurisdiction, the same one over which the infrastructure exists. Sure, you don't interact with them all, but you interact with a fraction of them, so the scaling properties are the same.

Re: Students are fleeing US law schools and pouring into engineering

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Post by ekm2 » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 7:44 PM UTC

theVirginian wrote: post #18

geebee wrote: post #13

Another factor to consider here is a rise (if any) in engineering undergraduate degrees. I know that grad engineering degrees to law degrees seems like more of an apples-to-apples comparison, but there's a big difference. A history major who goes to law school goes from not lawyer to lawyer (assuming he or she passes the bar). Engineering graduate students, on the other hand, almost always have a background in their…

Actually, engineering students statistically score highest on the LSAT out of any undergraduate degree

Actually,Math/Physics, along with Econ,Philosophy as well as International Relations majors score higher than Engineers on the LSAT.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1430654