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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by mdaniel »

nsxwolf wrote: post #342
primigenus wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this, even if they're not there yet.

That's what you want to run on your laptop? Android apps?

IMHO, these chromebooks are not laptops - they are large screen tablets with the bluetooth keyboard attached to them.

So the idea, and if I recall correctly, proof of concept, of ChromeOS running Android apps isn't a large stretch.

edit: I just watched the promotional video, and I was right about their interest in ChromeOS running Android apps, I was just wrong about its maturity level. The video states that ChromeOS runs "select" Android apps.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by atmosx »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #346

It looks like a very nice machine. At $999 though, it's about the same price as a MacBook Air. I haven't compared specs (SSD? Ram?), but the Chromebook is a device intended to store all your data in 'the cloud', right? On the other hand, it's got a touchscreen which the Air does not. The Air's a lot smaller/lighter/prettier though. At any rate, the Chromebook is definitely no longer priced below a premium laptop like…

I have a chromebook (samsung arm7) and a MBA (2011). Comparing the too, if you're not a highschool student (which your only needs are Youtube, Facebook, Spreadsheet and Doc editor) you're comparing a toy with a very powerful laptop. The difference of the OS is so big that talking about HW doesn't make any sense.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by r3m6 »

lucb1e wrote: post #338
ortusdux wrote: post #302

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I always recommend getting a warranty through your insurance company. My wife got a surface pro, and in her hands I give it a 2 year half-life. We got a personal articles policy on it that is about 45$ a year, and it covers any situation except terrorism or government/cdc seizure. Those policies are a good read. Squaretrade was over 100$ a year and did not cover theft etc. Oh and no deductible. She broke the 60$ char…

Or you live in Europe and 2 years of warranty on new electronics is the law, not the premium.

Either way you pay for it.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by arrrg »

dysfunction wrote: post #307
arrrg wrote: post #210

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Eh … if you need a dongle maybe it’s just not, you know, for you? What a novel concept! I practically never plug anything into my laptop except the charging cable. I suspect there are many people like me out there. This one is for use, not for you. Apple isn’t into being all things to all people, you know. Or at least their single products never are. Sometimes something is just not for you and that’s ok.

Then why put a data port on it at all? Either they expect you to do everything through the cloud or they don't. If they expected enough people to plug stuff into it that it was worth putting a USB port on it, that means expect that the same people would sometimes do that while it was charging (given that these things last through a day of heavy use at best). Which means they do expect people to have to use a dongle.

Huh? That’s just an incoherent statement. You are inventing false dichotomies. That’s just so absurd.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by kakisoop »

For chromebook pixel to be successful among developers atleast, following needs to be done

1. Provide a good terminal like iTerm 2. Google cloud should provide a free standard instance always powered and run chrome in headless mode with remote desktop enabled via chrome remote desktop app. 3. Provide a ebs worth 100GB at least on the cloud.

Standard instance costs 0.045 per hour i.e, 345$ per year.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by rcraft »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #266

Owner of a last-gen Pixel here. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon, but as far as refreshes go, this one seems to address most of my complaints, namely: - More RAM - Better battery life / charge time - USB-C ports Here's what I'm not sure if it will fix: - Overheating (original Pixel gets HOT on the top-left corner where I'm guessing the CPU resides) - OpenVPN support (ChromeOS does not support simply loading…

I purchase all expensive electronics on my AMEX card. They offer an additional year on all manufacturers warranty at no additional cost, along with 90 day purchase protection for any accidental damage. Its fantastic.

Visa Signature offers similar coverage, however making a claim with Visa vs Amex is a much bigger headache.

I've submitted multiple warranty and purchase protection claims with AMEX and its about the easiest process imaginable. Highly recommended.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by mdaniel »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #371
primigenus wrote: post #311

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Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this, even if they're not there yet.

Android apps will help fill some of the holes, but how likely is it that we'll ever get an Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse? I suppose it's theoretically possible, but there are some programs that are, frankly, unlikely to ever leave the "desktop" OS's (i.e. Windows, OSX, Linux). Of course, I'm happy for Google to prove me wrong. I would have firmly thrown Photoshop…

Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse

I believe the Eclipse folks think that Orion (http://www.eclipse.org/orion/) is the path out of that jam. I'm super stoked about that project, and think it may have real legs if they don't lose focus.

That is their solution to your git need, also, unless one requires a dedicated git client to do rebases or other ninjary: https://github.com/creationix/js-git

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by atmosx »

ripter wrote: post #142
lytedev wrote: post #133

I'm sure it's a fantastic machine, I just can't understand what niche this is aiming for... there seems to me to be a better alternative to this machine for anybody... Chrome OS developers?

I recently bought a ChromeBook for development (The $199 one). It's a super light linux machine that lasts for days. So I have all my dev tools and I can easily work on any git repo. I don't do any Chrome OS development. I tried using a tablet for this, but as an emacs users, I have very specific keyboard bindings that the tablets always had issues with.

Yes, you bought it and you 'hacked it' in order to make it 'usable'. Most developers will buy a MBA which is an order of magnitude faster with more powerful CPU and feautures MacOSX which has tons of software to enhance development (especially for CLI users).

So definately no, developers are not a niche market for this toy-device althoguh I admit that I like my Samsung Chromebook (and Iinstalled xubuntu too on it...).

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jkestner »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #222
pbreit wrote: post #213

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Complaining about Apple removing ports is foolhardy and pretty much always wrong.

They've done it many times before: * Original iMac (all-USB, no floppy disk drive) * MacBook Air (no CD drive) * MacBook Pro (no Ethernet) People have gotten used to it each time.

And there are other models to choose from, even if you're an Apple diehard. Yes, Apple is incapable of making the perfect machine for your needs at this precise point in time, but it's pretty good for some group of people. I'm in the group of people that will get the MacBook Pro version of this with a stunning array of two USB-C ports.
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