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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

primigenus wrote: post #311
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #266

Owner of a last-gen Pixel here. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon, but as far as refreshes go, this one seems to address most of my complaints, namely: - More RAM - Better battery life / charge time - USB-C ports Here's what I'm not sure if it will fix: - Overheating (original Pixel gets HOT on the top-left corner where I'm guessing the CPU resides) - OpenVPN support (ChromeOS does not support simply loading…

Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this, even if they're not there yet.

Android apps will help fill some of the holes, but how likely is it that we'll ever get an Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse? I suppose it's theoretically possible, but there are some programs that are, frankly, unlikely to ever leave the "desktop" OS's (i.e. Windows, OSX, Linux).

Of course, I'm happy for Google to prove me wrong. I would have firmly thrown Photoshop into that category until Adobe announced they were making a ChromeOS-compatible version of it. I happen to quite like my Pixel, so if the Chrome Apps can one day let me do everything I need to do without needing to go to a Linux chroot, I'd be thrilled. Until then, however, I need Sublime (Caret is pretty good, though), I need git, etc.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jkestner »

threeseed wrote: post #344
copsarebastards wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. What you seem to have missed is that this is nobody cares . Nobody is going, "I really wish I could charge my laptop through the same port…

If your MacBook Air is connected to your monitor then it will likely have standard USB ports on it like most do today. That said few people use external storage or thumb drives anymore especially the target demographic of the MBA.

Gotta admit it'll be pretty cool when Apple updates the Studio Display to provide your MacBook with video, audio, power, and USB over one cable. A return to the dream that ADC promised.

With the amazing difference of being an industry standard, so I can get that experience with Dell products if I desire.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by Splendor »

jrockway wrote: post #160
Splendor wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry if I've misunderstood. When I read passages like this[0]: > Installing Ubuntu is not easy , either. By default the bootloader of Chromebooks are signed and locked. I assume that the writer is correct. [0]: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-12-04-up-and-runni...

All the details are here: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/d... Depending on your device, you unlock things by pressing Power-Refresh; that switches the device to unlocked mode. You can continue using ChromeOS, build your own ChromiumOS, or install another OS. You can also kill off the bootloader completely. I've never done that before, but I believe the linked doc describes the process. I'm…

Thank you for the additional information.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by frio »

copsarebastards wrote: post #328
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

> What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. What you seem to have missed is that this is nobody cares . Nobody is going, "I really wish I could charge my laptop through the same port…

It's a problem I have. Apple don't have docking stations; it's frustrating unhooking multiple devices so I can wander to a meeting room, only to hook them up again later. A single cable would be amazing (even more so if it was MagSafe, but oh well).

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jedmeyers »

lucb1e wrote: post #338
ortusdux wrote: post #302

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I always recommend getting a warranty through your insurance company. My wife got a surface pro, and in her hands I give it a 2 year half-life. We got a personal articles policy on it that is about 45$ a year, and it covers any situation except terrorism or government/cdc seizure. Those policies are a good read. Squaretrade was over 100$ a year and did not cover theft etc. Oh and no deductible. She broke the 60$ char…

Or you live in Europe and 2 years of warranty on new electronics is the law, not the premium.

Warranty and insurance are slightly different things. Warranty in Europe does not cover the cases where you brake something accidentally, for example.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by nazgob »

lucb1e wrote: post #338
ortusdux wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always recommend getting a warranty through your insurance company. My wife got a surface pro, and in her hands I give it a 2 year half-life. We got a personal articles policy on it that is about 45$ a year, and it covers any situation except terrorism or government/cdc seizure. Those policies are a good read. Squaretrade was over 100$ a year and did not cover theft etc. Oh and no deductible. She broke the 60$ char…

Or you live in Europe and 2 years of warranty on new electronics is the law, not the premium.

And the electronics cost much more...

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by aceperry »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #266

Owner of a last-gen Pixel here. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon, but as far as refreshes go, this one seems to address most of my complaints, namely: - More RAM - Better battery life / charge time - USB-C ports Here's what I'm not sure if it will fix: - Overheating (original Pixel gets HOT on the top-left corner where I'm guessing the CPU resides) - OpenVPN support (ChromeOS does not support simply loading…

I have 4 chromebooks, the original pilot program, 1st Gen Samsung, Acer c720, and the Pixel. Totally love the pixel, pilot book and Acer, hate the 1st gen. AdmiralAsshat's criticisms are valid about the pixel but it works well for me since it has a lot more memory than the other chromebooks. Crouton linux makes even the smaller chromebooks quite useable for most situations. Sometimes I have a hard time deciding which chromebook to use. Mostly it's come down to the Acer for travel, and the Pixel for home. The Pixel has poor battery life compared to the other chromebooks though, but glad to hear that's been taken care of.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jedmeyers »

revelation wrote: post #148

Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

Mountain View is also in California, by the way. Apple and Google are 15 minutes drive apart.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jvandonsel »

EC1 wrote: post #244
egonschiele wrote: post #172

I'm not sure why this is better than the cheapest macbook air?Similar battery life, similar processor. 4gb more memory, smaller hard drive. And the cheapest pixel is $100 more. What do I get for that $100? For me the downsides are: can only use apps from the chrome web store, no unix command line (maybe it exists and I don't know?). I'm really happy someone is trying to compete, but not sure why I would buy this.

I don't know a single person in real life that has a chromebook. Who is buying these?

I got some low-end chromebooks for my teenage daughters. It's the perfect device for them. Cheap to replace if they get lost/stolen/dropped, and I don't need to worry about viruses.
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