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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by pekk »

dragonwriter wrote: post #233
egonschiele wrote: post #156

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The whole point of a chromebook is that the storage is in the cloud. I was surprised they offered so much storage.

> The whole point of a chromebook is that the storage is in the cloud. The whole point of a Chromebook is that the Chrome browser is the app platform. But among the many big pushes of Chrome to enable browser to be a compelling app platform (and one that eventually moved into web standards) is enabling local storage for browser applications so that they don't need to rely on remote storage for everything. So it makes…

The typical usage of local storage for webapps is as a cache. That's different in practice from the traditional desktop pattern of installing apps.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by genericresponse »

copsarebastards wrote: post #328
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

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What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

> What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. What you seem to have missed is that this is nobody cares . Nobody is going, "I really wish I could charge my laptop through the same port…

Consider the people you are hearing it from and are around.

Most of the people in my life (outside of work) have no issue. Most of them don't have second monitors or external hdds. They might have a thumb drive or a Chromecast.

If you're a power user get a power user machine. Get a MacBook Pro.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by bduerst »

fizzbatter wrote: post #218
revelation wrote: post #197

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That's great, but even at 1GBit over Google Fiber that has still less bandwidth than an actual SSD. And of course the most important part of why you use an SSD in the first place is latency, where cloud storage is significantly slower than 1995 spinning platter hard disks. So even if I accept that the storage is in the cloud , it doesn't make sense since the hardware is clearly not there, but the software isn't eithe…

To be fair, you're not running VMWare on the Pixel either (i don't think?). I'm skeptical that it is even a problem for just about anything you can actually run on the OS. It's a Chromebook afterall, running disk-utilizing programs is not it's design speciality. Sure, you could dump Linux on it - but i'm not sure how many would choose a Pixel over some other highend brands for a Linux machine. I believe the disk is m…

>but i'm not sure how many would choose a Pixel over some other highend brands for a Linux machine.

I'm curious to know what other ultrabooks make great hardware for a linux laptop. Do you know a few?

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by darcyparker »

mmastrac wrote: post #212
chez17 wrote: post #166

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It has an SD card reader. You can double the storage for super cheap.

You could even triple it with the new 200GB SD cards, but the performance won't be that great. Not so bad for storing documents and large media, I suppose. Any idea if it uses one of the many standard-ish SSD SATA or PCIe interfaces?

You can upgrade the NGFF drive in many other chromebooks. I suspect you should be able to do the same for the new pixel. For example, see bubble 4 in the image at the bottom of this page: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-fo... I upgraded my ngff to 128GB on my acer c720P chromebook.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by largote »

egonschiele wrote: post #172

I'm not sure why this is better than the cheapest macbook air?Similar battery life, similar processor. 4gb more memory, smaller hard drive. And the cheapest pixel is $100 more. What do I get for that $100? For me the downsides are: can only use apps from the chrome web store, no unix command line (maybe it exists and I don't know?). I'm really happy someone is trying to compete, but not sure why I would buy this.

The processor on this is significantly faster even though both are an "i5".

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by darcyparker »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #251
revelation wrote: post #148

Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

I completely agree. This would be a killer alternative to an MBPr if an option to upgrade/purchase a 256GB SSD was available. So close to perfect, yet so far.

Most chromebooks these days are NGFF... And you can get a 256GB NGFF on amazon. It's a common upgrade for chromebook users. Especially those running a chroot with crouton.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by darcyparker »

zanny wrote: post #177
wahsd wrote: post #167

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Well, you just store all your data on the NSA cloud from your NSA terminal. To your point about he MacBook one port. They do offer a rather smart "splitter" dongle at $60-$90 that allows you to charge while I/Oing other data when that uncommon scenario uncommonly arises. I just don't get the whole Google approach. They think far higher of their "OS" than is warranted. They should have been selling this thing as a los…

If it had 256GB and Ubunutu it would be the Linux Macbook we need. A large portion of buyers will almost certainly be trying to run GNU/Linux on it anyway.

Like other chromebooks, I am sure you'll be able to upgrade the NGFF to 256GB. Plenty of NGFF drives are available on Amazon.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by darcyparker »

rbanffy wrote: post #292
friendcomputer wrote: post #190

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If you want a full featured local linux command line, you can switch to developer mode and install one in a chroot via something like https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton This does sidestep some of the security features of the device, but it's fine if you really want it. Or you can just ssh somewhere.

I found OSX with MacPorts to be quite enough most of the time. I can run editors and such on the Mac side and test the application from within a small VM.

Not homebrew?
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