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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by rbanffy »

cV6WB wrote: post #178
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

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What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

> In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charger is permanently connected to (or built into) the Apple monitor/display. Except that this display does not exist.

> Except that this display does not exist.

Yet. Neither does the laptop, by the way. By the time it launches, I expect it'll be surrounded by a fairly decent line of accessories.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by drivingmenuts »

EpicEng wrote: post #260
ChuckMcM wrote: post #173

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What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

So I have to purchase and carry around peripherals just to use my machine in anything but the most basic scenario? Not a fan. To be clear, I am a Mac laptop user and have been for years. I love them from a build perspective, but I don't agree with the one-port-to-rule-them-all decision.

I didn't either, but then I looked again and realized it was the Macbook, not the Air or the Pro.

The Macbook isn't exactly the choice of power-users. (Actually, seeing how underpowered it is, it's probably the choice of very patient users.)

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by sspiff »

sspiff wrote: post #223
cdelsolar wrote: post #198

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because $1299 is a fortune

While many of us routinely spend this amount of money on laptops or other hardware, the average Joe doesn't want to spend more than 600-700 euro on a laptop (which translates to up to $650 in practice). So yes, for most people, this sounds like a fortune for a laptop. I think it's actually addressed half of shortcomings of the old Pixel: 4GB of memory has been upped to a reasonable 8GB or a generous 16GB. The CPU bum…

To ghrifter (I couldn't reply to your thread): yes it's a tax thing, and also the cost associated with the EU mandated 2 year minimal warranty programs. Electronics are generally more expensive in euros than in dollars, even though the exchange rate of a dollar is still below 1.0 euro.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by cssmoo »

EpicEng wrote: post #261
cssmoo wrote: post #237

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That's somewhat subjective. Personally I wouldn't pay more than $300 a machine and consider $1299 to be pretty extortionate amounts of cash considering the rate of depreciation. Hey everyone I just worked 2x the time to pay for something shiny with no productivity gain! (I use a shitty old X201 with 4Gb RAM and an SSD from eBay connected to a monitor I skip dived because it was 5:4 ratio)

To be fair, macs depreciate at a much slower pace than your typical Windows laptop. I just sold my 2009 Mac Pro for $650.

Agreed on that point. I sold a dead logic board 2010 MBP for nearly that in 2013!

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by kbenson »

revelation wrote: post #224
AustinDizzy wrote: post #186

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Google's marketing strategy for the Pixel isn't geared towards the "hacker" and developer type, it's more geared towards students and people who solely use their computers for simple web browsing and document processing. Offering 1TB+ of online storage is enough for all your office/school documents and all the photos you could ever want for the average person. If Google were making hardware only for developers and th…

It's a 3:2 display with an i5 upwards and minimum of 8GiB of RAM. That doesn't particularly fit into the simple web browsing and document processing crowd, who would presumably be much better served with something like the Intel Core M Apple uses, which could easily yield twice the battery runtime at a zero cost for these usecases. It also costs >$1k, so theres that.

Here[1] is a break down of a core M and i5 mobile processor. I don't know if they are the specific processors, but there are some interesting differences, mostly around cache size, graphics chip, and graphics capabilities (the i5 has more hardware decode capabilities it seems). That said, since they are advertising 12 hours of battery, it's not like it's a slouch in that department.

1: http://ark.intel.com/compare/84672,85213

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by BorisMelnik »

aikah wrote: post #263
cdelsolar wrote: post #198

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because $1299 is a fortune

> because $1299 is a fortune Yes, for some people it is a serious investment. You might win 500k or more a year, good for you, you are successful. But for people who have kids who will have to go to University ,even at 100k a year , $1300 isn't a small amount of money. If you think people buy laptops like they buy candies well you're a privileged man, and again I wish you the best,but that's not the reality for most…

spot on my friend, I do better than most, and still have to budget for a purchase like that.

what this does mean for me, is that older models will come down in price and become much more affordable. might even be able to pick up last years for $2-400 on ebay.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jethro_tell »

dvirsky wrote: post #256
EC1 wrote: post #244

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I don't know a single person in real life that has a chromebook. Who is buying these?

A lot of people apparently: http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-3-holiday-computers-on-amaz... If I were to buy a second computer for travelling and lightweight stuff at home, and not developing, I guess a Chromebook would be a nice choice. But not at the price of a Macbook Air, though.

I'll buy it and run linux on it. I've long ago put all my data on my own storage boxes and all my systems have 64GB SSDs.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by X-Istence »

cssmoo wrote: post #237
cdelsolar wrote: post #198

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because $1299 is a fortune

That's somewhat subjective. Personally I wouldn't pay more than $300 a machine and consider $1299 to be pretty extortionate amounts of cash considering the rate of depreciation. Hey everyone I just worked 2x the time to pay for something shiny with no productivity gain! (I use a shitty old X201 with 4Gb RAM and an SSD from eBay connected to a monitor I skip dived because it was 5:4 ratio)

A friend of mine just sold his 2009 MacBook Pro for $1500, he originally purchased it for $2400 IIRC. That's only $900 worth of deprecation in 6 years.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Post by Zak »

outericky wrote: post #187
cV6WB wrote: post #178

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> In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charger is permanently connected to (or built into) the Apple monitor/display. Except that this display does not exist.

Adapters will exist for now. I think a solution to a single port (though, having more than 1 is probably better) is great. Why do we need 8 different port types? We should have one and it should do everything. But we should have 2 of them.

I haven't seen anybody complaining about the move to a single port type. Most of us in the tech world recognize that as a Good Thing. What many of us don't like is that you have to unplug the power adapter just to plug in a flash drive unless you have a dongle.
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