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Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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because $1299 is a fortune

That's somewhat subjective. Personally I wouldn't pay more than $300 a machine and consider $1299 to be pretty extortionate amounts of cash considering the rate of depreciation. Hey everyone I just worked 2x the time to pay for something shiny with no productivity gain! (I use a shitty old X201 with 4Gb RAM and an SSD from eBay connected to a monitor I skip dived because it was 5:4 ratio)

To be fair, macs depreciate at a much slower pace than your typical Windows laptop. I just sold my 2009 Mac Pro for $650.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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> You can install linux on it. I own the previous version of the Pixel and I run ubuntu on it and its close to perfect. Yeah, just like buying a Windows laptop to install Linux, meaning using the laptop for another purpose than it is being sold for.

Out of curiosity what laptop do you use? What do you do on your laptop? How does the vendor that you bought the laptop from enable your intended use (out of the box)?

A Asus laptop with Windows 8.1.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Right. Because my desire is to spend a fortune, only to have to spend another fortune to make it all just work.

because $1299 is a fortune

> because $1299 is a fortune

Yes, for some people it is a serious investment.

You might win 500k or more a year, good for you, you are successful. But for people who have kids who will have to go to University ,even at 100k a year , $1300 isn't a small amount of money.

If you think people buy laptops like they buy candies well you're a privileged man, and again I wish you the best,but that's not the reality for most of us.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

What most people have missed is that USB allows charging and data over the same port. So you can easily get a power adapter that has a charging tip which has on the same cord another USB-C port (socket) which you can plug into your display chain, or port replicator or what not. In Apple's case I fully expect they will make it so that when you plug your Apple display into your laptop it also charges it since the charg…

But if I have external storage plugged in (I'm copying a large file), and I need to charge the laptop, then I need to disconnect the drive in order to charge the laptop?

There are countless examples where daisy-chaining these devices becomes very inconvenient.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Jesus, designing a usable ultrabook must be very difficult. We have one contender from California, but their ideology has them offer just a single USB-C port. Now we get the competitor from Mountain View, who have rightly recognized the need for more than one fucking port when that's how you charge the damn thing, and what do they decide? Oh yeah, we'll top out storage at 64GiB.

Neither Apple nor Google, when designing these ultrabooks, really seem to consider 'usability' a top priority in the way the typical HN user would define the term. They seem like fashion accessories first, brand adverts second, and general purpose computers... somewhere further down.

Of course i'm one of those cranky old dinosaurs who likes cords and ports and who doesn't particularly like 'the cloud' so obviously it's not for me anyway.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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Owner of a last-gen Pixel here. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon, but as far as refreshes go, this one seems to address most of my complaints, namely:

- More RAM

- Better battery life / charge time

- USB-C ports

Here's what I'm not sure if it will fix: - Overheating (original Pixel gets HOT on the top-left corner where I'm guessing the CPU resides)

- OpenVPN support (ChromeOS does not support simply loading a .ovpn profile--I have to do some hacking from the command-line to get it to work)

- Longer warranty (1-year limited is all that is provided with the previous model--and since these are directly from Google, you can't get an extended warranty through the retailer)

- Weight (Love the metal slate look, could be lighter, however; based on the specs it seems like not so much)

And finally, the things that Google will never fix, and you should simply be aware of ChromeOS's limitations:

- Lack of apps

I will say, however, that in the past year, Crouton, which allows you to sideload a linux partition onto the device, has come a long way, to the point that you can actually have an Ubuntu chroot running in a tab inside ChromeOS as though it were just another window/app. It has proved incredibly useful for running things like Sublime or Eclipse without having to do the complete environment-shift that was required some time ago.

Price is still a little high, however. I feel like those looking for a high-quality Linux laptop could probably get an Acer Aspire for cheaper.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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The whole ChromeOS project seems to have gotten underway because someone at Google observed how much of the computing time was spent inside the web browser. the problem with ChromeOS, imo, is how limited it becomes once you pull out the net connection. Never mind the whole lockdown unless you flip that "developer" switch.

"the problem with ChromeOS, imo, is how limited it becomes once you pull out the net connection" The other problem with ChromesOS is that it's a gigantic privacy sinkhole. Everything you do in the OS is tracked and recorded by Google. Even printing to your desktop printer. None of this tracking is anonymous either since you must sign in with your Google account to properly use ChromeOS. (Just a reminder that a Google…

You can create a fake account.

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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How is ChromeOS? Can you get a decent terminal or terminal app? Install and keep up to date the basic terminal utilities (ssh, tmux, vim, rsync, etc)? What about other software? Is the browser like the regular Chrome? Can you play regular media files (flac, x264 mkv)? Are there any unpleasant surprises?

It's completely simple to get a real terminal/SSH running with Crouton.[0] ChromeOS supports every common media format you'll come across.[1] [0] https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton [1] http://www.chromium.org/audio-video

You can install only the command line tools[1]. Does this work as a nice terminal window within ChromeOS? I can't find that kind of setup on Youtube.

[1] https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton#i-dont-always-use-linux...

Re: 2015 Chromebook Pixel

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If the specs* they list are correct, it charges fully in 1.5 hours, which, at 60W, is 90Wh of storage. 90Wh over 12 hours is 7.5W of power usage. That's a nice small number. It's 50% more than the new MB, but significantly more computer as well. *: They claim to charge enough for 2 hours in 15 minutes. The charger is a 60W charger.

this article claims it's a 72 watt-hour battery:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2894970/hands-on-googles-new-...

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