This is a nail in the coffin of the SaaS backup industry (Backblaze, RescuePlan, etc.). With storage becoming essentially free the last excuse for not using self-hosted, secure backup tools like Arq[1] disappears. [1] http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
Backblaze is $5/mo per computer. If I have 4TB on a computer, it's still just $5/mo.
Introducing Google Cloud Storage Nearline
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#42The detailed pricing is at https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#nearline-pricing In short, if I'm understanding correctly: $0.01 per GB per month storage $0.01 per GB retrieval Normal egress fees on top, so additional ~$0.10 per GB if you want to retrieve outside of Google Cloud. Early deletion fee. Effectively just a minimum storage charge of 1 month. It seems this is cheaper than Glacier and quite a bit simpler…
Unless Glacier just changed their pricing, how is it cheaper and simpler? Glacier is also $.01/GB storage, but only $.09/GB retrieval, which is cheaper than google's $.12/GB. Glacier also comes with 1st GB retrieval free/mo.
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#43Does anyone know of any online-storage offering that allows paying in bitcoin and allows API access? Thanks
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Backblaze is $5/mo per computer. If I have 4TB on a computer, it's still just $5/mo.
Yes, but would you spend weeks uploading your 4TB?
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#45This is a nail in the coffin of the SaaS backup industry (Backblaze, RescuePlan, etc.). With storage becoming essentially free the last excuse for not using self-hosted, secure backup tools like Arq[1] disappears. [1] http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
Backblaze is $5/mo per computer. If I have 4TB on a computer, it's still just $5/mo.
Re: Introducing Google Cloud Storage Nearline
#46This is a nail in the coffin of the SaaS backup industry (Backblaze, RescuePlan, etc.). With storage becoming essentially free the last excuse for not using self-hosted, secure backup tools like Arq[1] disappears. [1] http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
Backblaze is $5/mo per computer. If I have 4TB on a computer, it's still just $5/mo.
My thinking is that most people likely max out well below the 0.5T that the same $5 buys you on Google now, making that variant actually cheaper for them than Backblaze.
For those people it means paying less per month and getting privacy and better control (data retention!) in return. Should be a no-brainer.
Re: Introducing Google Cloud Storage Nearline
#47This is a nail in the coffin of the SaaS backup industry (Backblaze, RescuePlan, etc.). With storage becoming essentially free the last excuse for not using self-hosted, secure backup tools like Arq[1] disappears. [1] http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
Re: Introducing Google Cloud Storage Nearline
#48This is a nail in the coffin of the SaaS backup industry (Backblaze, RescuePlan, etc.). With storage becoming essentially free the last excuse for not using self-hosted, secure backup tools like Arq[1] disappears. [1] http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/
Hardly. I pay for support. I pay for liability. If something goes haywire with my backups, I have a phone number I can call. A number that's not software developer/ sys admin who has no idea why I'm calling about my mom's missing holiday photos.
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#49The detailed pricing is at https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#nearline-pricing In short, if I'm understanding correctly: $0.01 per GB per month storage $0.01 per GB retrieval Normal egress fees on top, so additional ~$0.10 per GB if you want to retrieve outside of Google Cloud. Early deletion fee. Effectively just a minimum storage charge of 1 month. It seems this is cheaper than Glacier and quite a bit simpler…
Unless Glacier just changed their pricing, how is it cheaper and simpler? Glacier is also $.01/GB storage, but only $.09/GB retrieval, which is cheaper than google's $.12/GB. Glacier also comes with 1st GB retrieval free/mo.
https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/faqs/#How_much_data_can_I_ret...
Re: Introducing Google Cloud Storage Nearline
#50The detailed pricing is at https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#nearline-pricing In short, if I'm understanding correctly: $0.01 per GB per month storage $0.01 per GB retrieval Normal egress fees on top, so additional ~$0.10 per GB if you want to retrieve outside of Google Cloud. Early deletion fee. Effectively just a minimum storage charge of 1 month. It seems this is cheaper than Glacier and quite a bit simpler…
Unless Glacier just changed their pricing, how is it cheaper and simpler? Glacier is also $.01/GB storage, but only $.09/GB retrieval, which is cheaper than google's $.12/GB. Glacier also comes with 1st GB retrieval free/mo.
The biggest gotcha is that you can only access 0.17% of the data you've stored in any given day without extra charges. So if you've stored 1000 GB, you can only access 1.7 GB per day for free.
The cost for going over your daily "retrieval allowance" can be large, because cost is driven by "peak retrieval rate". They find the highest hourly retrieval rate over the entire month, and charge the whole month's retrieval at the peak rate.
This can get expensive fast. Again, with 1000 GB stored, if you retrieve 200 GB over the course of 4 hours, your hourly retrieval rate is 200 GB / 4 hours = 50 GB per hour. Your free retrieval allowance is 1.7 GB per day / 24 hours = 0.07 GB / hour. So your excess retrieval is 49.93 GB per hour.
Amazingly, that 49.93 GB per hour for 4 hours is charged for all 720 hours in the month, so that's 49.93 * 720 * 0.01 = $359.49.
That's an astonishing $1.79 per GB just to retrieve one-fifth of the data from Glacier storage.
So Glacier only makes sense for true cold storage, where you are very unlikely to touch more than 0.00007 of it in any given hour.
Google's Nearline is much simpler and faster for the same storage cost -- and far cheaper if you need to access more than a tiny fraction of the data.
Source: http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/faqs/#How_much_data_can_I_retr...