Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
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Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
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Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#2Is this really a big deal?
They were doing exactly what NSA was supposed to do. We moved from NSA should not spy on everyone to NSA should be toothless ...
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#3I found the use of the term "nation-states" to be interesting. They use it in contrast to cybercriminals, but I would imagine that there's a large gap between (relatively) paltry cybercriminal activity and full on nation-states.
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#4Is this really a big deal? They were doing exactly what NSA was supposed to do. We moved from NSA should not spy on everyone to NSA should be toothless ...
It's a big deal because of the resources being applied to this, and the lack of resources applied to keeping data private and secure.
Of course you can't prevent efforts to break into systems. But you can spend enough resources on making it difficult and fruitless that it is reasonably certain that our data can't be accessed by spooks of any nation.
We get what we pay for. Right now we spend vastly more on surveillance than on privacy and security. Guess which one we have more of?
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#5I found the use of the term "nation-states" to be interesting. They use it in contrast to cybercriminals, but I would imagine that there's a large gap between (relatively) paltry cybercriminal activity and full on nation-states.
Blah blah Hobbes. Blah blah you puny humans would otherwise be "in a state of nature." Accept your illusion of freedom and shut up. Signed, Levi A. Than.
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#6No more claims from moral high ground from USA government. No sympathy for the devil.
Now brace yourselves for astroturfers and apologists.
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#7No more claims from moral high ground from USA government. No sympathy for the devil. Now brace yourselves for astroturfers and apologists.
Your comment would be stronger if you omitted the final sentence.
Fortifying your opinion by preemptively calling other people contributing to the discussion "astroturfers and apologists" is poor form.
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#8No more claims from moral high ground from USA government. No sympathy for the devil. Now brace yourselves for astroturfers and apologists.
Why, because the NSA was conducting targeted espionage operations? That's exactly I want the NSA to be doing! The reason Snowden blew the whistle was because they were:
a.) conducting untargeted data collection on uninvolved civilians.
b.) Sponsoring encryption methods with known flaws so that they could exploit them, thereby weakening security for US businesses and citizens.
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#9Is this really a big deal? They were doing exactly what NSA was supposed to do. We moved from NSA should not spy on everyone to NSA should be toothless ...
It's a big deal because of the resources being applied to this, and the lack of resources applied to keeping data private and secure. Of course you can't prevent efforts to break into systems. But you can spend enough resources on making it difficult and fruitless that it is reasonably certain that our data can't be accessed by spooks of any nation. We get what we pay for. Right now we spend vastly more on surveillan…
The resources that sabotage unwanted nuclear programs ... are resources well spent. This part of NSA is caring the mandate. Highly targeted, highly efficient, no collateral damage, no dragnets, delivering results.
Re: Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers
#10Is this really a big deal? They were doing exactly what NSA was supposed to do. We moved from NSA should not spy on everyone to NSA should be toothless ...
Yeah, it's all getting a little ridiculous. Every country has been spying on every other country since the beginning of countries. The leaks from Snowden, Greenwald, et al are becoming less about privacy violations and unjustified data collection and more about legitimate spying efforts, but they're still being met with breathless outrage here and elsewhere.
Also, are we really thinking "Grok" is some sort of identifying name/tag?