Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
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Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
#2I'm also still not clear what 21 does. According to the article they are building out the blockchain into the internet of things (IoT). That sounds really vague. Plus, the article mentions a contractual twist - like smart lawyer contracts. These two things don't seem to obviously go together.
Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
#3I ask because I was maintaining my own wallet for awhile but stopped because the block chain database was getting unwieldy - it would take up to a week to resync if I ever turned my wallet software off for a significant amount of time.
You know though... I actually don't care. Bitcoin was an interesting curiosity and useful in some situations (transferring money to people in rural areas of 3rd world countries, for example), but it's slow (up to 15 minutes for the transaction to be approved?), has high fees in its transactions and even higher to convert from/to cash, it's unwieldy...
To use it from consumer devices would require someone else managing the wallet, and at that point I'll instead just use cash or a credit card.
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#5Are there ways to reduce the size of the block chain? Or will we get to the point where only large service providers can hold the block chain? I ask because I was maintaining my own wallet for awhile but stopped because the block chain database was getting unwieldy - it would take up to a week to resync if I ever turned my wallet software off for a significant amount of time. You know though... I actually don't care.…
Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
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#7Are there ways to reduce the size of the block chain? Or will we get to the point where only large service providers can hold the block chain? I ask because I was maintaining my own wallet for awhile but stopped because the block chain database was getting unwieldy - it would take up to a week to resync if I ever turned my wallet software off for a significant amount of time. You know though... I actually don't care.…
Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
#8Are there ways to reduce the size of the block chain? Or will we get to the point where only large service providers can hold the block chain? I ask because I was maintaining my own wallet for awhile but stopped because the block chain database was getting unwieldy - it would take up to a week to resync if I ever turned my wallet software off for a significant amount of time. You know though... I actually don't care.…
To guarantee a transaction goes through you have to wait for it to be confirmed, but most transactions really aren't that important/high risk, so beyond checking that the address does actually have the money, it's instantaneous. Many payment processors (I know Bitpay has this option) actually take the 0 confirmation transaction risk, allowing customers to pay instantly.
Transaction fees are not high, with a typical fee of .0001 bitcoin (3 cents), which is small compared to credit card fees. While work needs to be done converting to/from cash, actually using bitcoin (that you already have) to buy things is a better experience than using credit cards. You simply grab your phone, scan the QR code, and hit send. This is much better than entering your credit card for the thousandth time on another website, or being redirected to paypal, entering your password, and choosing your preferred payment option for the thousandth time (stop asking me to use Paypal Credit!).
Using an Android wallet such as Mycelium, or a desktop wallet like Electrum doesn't require you to download the entire blockchain, and although that comes at the cost of some trust, I personally don't find that problematic.
Basically, bitcoin has some problems, but I think some of your criticisms are no longer applicable to most everyday usage of it.
Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
#9This is interesting because it's the first time I've heard about 21 and they have raised $116 million pre-launch. Given that companies who've raised an order of magnitude less are all over the news, it's surprising they have been so stealth. I'm also still not clear what 21 does. According to the article they are building out the blockchain into the internet of things (IoT). That sounds really vague. Plus, the articl…
The rough sketch of the idea is
-Hardware device runs a full security bitcoin node in your house -Provides a multisig for your mobile wallet. -Automatically moves savings into cold storage -Provides a basic environment for implementing crypto banking features
Re: Secretive Bitcoin Startup 21 Reveals Record Funds, Hints at Mass Consumer Play
#10This is interesting because it's the first time I've heard about 21 and they have raised $116 million pre-launch. Given that companies who've raised an order of magnitude less are all over the news, it's surprising they have been so stealth. I'm also still not clear what 21 does. According to the article they are building out the blockchain into the internet of things (IoT). That sounds really vague. Plus, the articl…
Otherwise, I don't know of many companies who've actually worked into the space of the less well-known features of bitcoins that can be used via the embedded pseudo-language.