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Announcing Starfighter

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Re: Announcing Starfighter

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I'm not looking for a job and am unlikely to be, hopefully ever again.

Will this be structured so I can use it as a proxy for a programming mentor? I think it would be awesome as a replacement for MOOCs, which I enjoy but find inefficient for the time invested. Books are efficient but not as much fun.

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got nothing against CRUD apps, because they make the world go round, but it is unlikely that Starfighter will choose to send our candidates to firms making CRUD apps. The difference will be fairly obvious when you see our client roster. We're geeks with good taste for the kind of jobs a geek would actually want to have. (Sorry for being coy here. Don't want to jinx contract signing.)

The problem is that the great hackers are already inundated with unattractive job offers. Offers that seem very attractive to people who are not them. If you had a deal with Google/Apple/Dropbox/NSA that said "If we find someone who can complete this challenge, you agree you hire them at $500k/year + $100k signing bonus doing work on Skunkworks Project X" you would have an incredible flow of hackers. No one has creat…

The problem is that the great hackers are already inundated with unattractive job offers.

This is true for a subset of great hackers who are conveniently visible to the tech industry's antiquated, inefficient, insane, and exclusionary hiring practices. It is very much not true for many very talented engineers in the world.

We're going to arbitrage that inefficiency to zero.

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this works the way they're hoping it will, I have to think it will be a huge time saver over: -Updating a resume -Contacting a recruiter -Replying to recruiters -Searching job descriptions -Writing cover letters -Tweaking previously updated resume -Sending applications -Maintaining a GitHub profile -Working on open source projects that may or may not fit a future job description -Spending 1-5 days interviewing And…

There are other companies that have tried to be the one-stop-shop for job hunting. It would suck if I worked on my Starfighter rep[1] and then I see a job I want but they want to use my HackerRank rep or StackOverflow rep or whatever elese instead. [1] a term I just made up, and may not correspond to something in reality

I don't know what it means to be a one-stop-shop for job hunting. I'm flattered by the concern on this thread that we're somehow going to monopolize dev hiring so completely that every working developer will need an account with us in good standing, but (a) that's not going to happen and (b) we wouldn't let it happen in the alternative universe where it might.

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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Hum, Thomas and Patrick working together... That by itself is worth keeping an eye on.

I didn't do so well on the microcorruption game. I'm curious to see what else they can come up with, hopefully both less specialized, more generic, but also more advanced...

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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I'm all, involved? and stuff? You can, like, ask us stuff, I guess. Let me answer the most frequent questions we're getting right here: "CTF" stands for "Capture The Flag". Conventionally, it's a contest with a collection of "flags" each of which is guarded by a programming puzzle; teams of people compete to collect flags. What we're doing is not a conventional CTF, but if you want to get the flavor of what we're doi…

Hey, tptacek. Your last post on hiring definitely found its legs and I am sure will cited for some time to come. You mentioned that you used to send a sampling of key text books to potential Matasano candidates and was wondering if you could share some references. I imagine Applied Crypto might be on there. Any any other important resources for mastering CTFs you might pass along would be obliged ;)

Definitely don't read Applied Cryptography!

http://sockpuppet.org/blog/2013/07/22/applied-practical-cryp...

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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I'm not looking for a job and am unlikely to be, hopefully ever again. Will this be structured so I can use it as a proxy for a programming mentor? I think it would be awesome as a replacement for MOOCs, which I enjoy but find inefficient for the time invested. Books are efficient but not as much fun.

You might want to check out http://www.freecodecamp.com/ . I think they do pair programming

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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I'm all, involved? and stuff? You can, like, ask us stuff, I guess. Let me answer the most frequent questions we're getting right here: "CTF" stands for "Capture The Flag". Conventionally, it's a contest with a collection of "flags" each of which is guarded by a programming puzzle; teams of people compete to collect flags. What we're doing is not a conventional CTF, but if you want to get the flavor of what we're doi…

Sounds interesting. What's the ETA?

Optimistically, weeks-not-months.

Re: Announcing Starfighter

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One of the conventional complaints against CS-algorithm-heavy interviewing is that companies ask all these tough questions about distributed cache latency in red-black tree optimizations, then once they hire people, they're just bashing out PHP and MySQL. How do you make sure that the companies hiring your services have challenges that live up to the skills you're selecting for?

I've got nothing against CRUD apps, because they make the world go round, but it is unlikely that Starfighter will choose to send our candidates to firms making CRUD apps. The difference will be fairly obvious when you see our client roster. We're geeks with good taste for the kind of jobs a geek would actually want to have. (Sorry for being coy here. Don't want to jinx contract signing.)

>We're geeks with good taste for the kind of jobs a geek would actually want to have.

You're geeks who've assumed that the only job a geek wants to have involves finding system-level exploits.

It's all very clever to write a program that reads use it's own bytecode as the secret, but does that feed people? Get them to Mars? Heal people? Does it make application programming easier, less error prone, more accessible? Perhaps there exists some insights at the lowest level of program execution that are only revealed in a career like this (a la _A New Kind of Science_), but somehow I doubt it.

But hey, everyone is welcome to their opinion.

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