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The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

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Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

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post #6

Step 1: Stop saying "cyber"

What's wrong with "cyber"? - does it not relate to computers?

A lot of my fellow security analysts have an irrational dislike of the term cyber. Personally, I'm indifferent towards the word. When someone uses it, I know exactly what they are talking about. Isn't that the important thing?

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

#22
post #6

Step 1: Stop saying "cyber"

Well, the cyber-criminals are committing cyber-crimes in cyberspace and we need our cyber-intelligence to be up to speed. (cyber-speed)

Learned something new today: cyber, via cybernetics, originates from the Greek word for "steersman," kybernetes.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cybernetics

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

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post #2

So with all the attention (advertisement/panic) the NSA has generated, the CIA wants a cut of the cake for themselves? That whole agency disco in the US is so confusing that I have the feeling this has to be the plan all the way or it's some kind of old cold war virus spawning divisions and agencies. Don't they all overlap? Is there enough reality for all of them to spy on?

The NSA is primarily charged with Signals Intelligence, Where as the CIA is Human Intelligence. So it's actually a pretty clear line. They also have their own security clearance process (though they tend to recognize each others in join work). The Department of Homeland security is a bit different, they're charged with domestic operations and support (TSA). The FBI is a Domestic Detective agency for lack of a better…

> The FBI is a Domestic Detective agency

The FBI changed their task to "national security" recently, and are now part of the "intelligence community" club.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/fbis-main-mission-now-not...

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

#24
post #6

Step 1: Stop saying "cyber"

What's wrong with "cyber"? - does it not relate to computers?

It's a term that you mostly find in government circles, media reporting and advertising. Outside of these, it is a warning sign that a person comes from that background and has not much down-to-earth experience with security topics and/or is trying to sell you something. (At least that is my impression from reading various discussions about the word)

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

#25
post #20

How about we talk about the CIA's next projects after we finish the prosecution of those in the chain of command that are responsible for torture . Or are attention spans so short and/or the agency so completely removed from the rule of law that we're going to let them get away with their crimes? If we're not even going to bother with the trial - acknowledging that we won't even bother trying to maintain the rule of…

meanwhile Obama gives pretty speeches about fighting extremism and tries to drum up more support for killing people an ocean away. American Democracy is a farce.

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

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"They will not, he said, work on behalf its corporate interests" Unless it's the RIAA, MPAA, MAFIAA or American Oil Interests... in which case, it's business as usual.

At least in the RIAA and MPAA cases, aren't the feds just enforcing piracy laws that are on the books? I mean we can argue that RIAA/MPAA were the ones who got them into the books in the first place, but it's not like corporations can approach the CIA to perform economic espionage, despite what some may think.

The way they handled the MEGA thing it sure seemed like they were acting as mere hired guns.

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

#27
post #20

How about we talk about the CIA's next projects after we finish the prosecution of those in the chain of command that are responsible for torture . Or are attention spans so short and/or the agency so completely removed from the rule of law that we're going to let them get away with their crimes? If we're not even going to bother with the trial - acknowledging that we won't even bother trying to maintain the rule of…

meanwhile Obama gives pretty speeches about fighting extremism and tries to drum up more support for killing people an ocean away. American Democracy is a farce.

It is too bad it does not seem like Europe will ever get its act together enough to be a balance against the US.

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

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post #2

So with all the attention (advertisement/panic) the NSA has generated, the CIA wants a cut of the cake for themselves? That whole agency disco in the US is so confusing that I have the feeling this has to be the plan all the way or it's some kind of old cold war virus spawning divisions and agencies. Don't they all overlap? Is there enough reality for all of them to spy on?

The US has built a narrative to justify their surveillance apparatus after getting caught with their pants down spying on the American people and the world.

It's an extension of the national security narrative. Agencies recognize the massive amount of funding and legislature on the horizon and want to see it diverted to them like it was to the DHS in the last decade.

Re: The CIA Says It’s Time to Up Its Cyber Game

#30
post #6

Step 1: Stop saying "cyber"

Who cares? Honestly, who cares what word they use. We all know what they mean.

Comments like this one just seem to me like a form of avoidance: let's mock their vocabulary, because we don't want to think about the substance of what they're doing.

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