Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls • Hacker News Board

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by chris_wot » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:46 PM UTC

psamathe wrote: post #59

An interesting side effect of the vicious retaliation against words on the internet (resulting in losing jobs and similar) is that it effectively creates a caste system. On the one hand, you have people like me who can discard their identity and any links to it and say absolutely anything without fear of repercussion. On the other, you have people who are still linked to real-life identities being forced to censor ev…

''On the other, you have people who are still linked to real-life identities bring forced to censor everything they say out of fear''

This is no different to real life.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by Estragon » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:46 PM UTC

ZoF wrote: post #93

rileymat wrote: post #78

Why is it so hard for twitter to implement some optional filter for this stuff? You have a complete history of a users tweets and a record of how long the person has been active, number of followers, textual analysis of the tweets, block/mute status with respect to other people, whether you follow ect. It seems like it should be really easy for twitter to put messages into a spam/harassment folder, never to be seen b…

Really easy? ...Really? Edit: Not only would this alter a core and fundamental aspect of how Twitter currently operates but it would certainly be non-trivial to implement in an unobtrusive manner. Who wants what blocked? Is there a generic 'spam/abuse' filter? Is it on by default? Are those tweets put into a spam/abuse section or entirely unviewable. What happens when someone sends a tweet that is blocked by the filt…

Federated twitter blocking where people can choose to outsource the blocking to people they trust would be pretty cool. Kind of like AdBlockPlus lists.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by Dylan16807 » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:50 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #122

Dylan16807 wrote: post #108

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Hold your horses. There are many crimes that don't put people on a life-ruining sexual predator list. Murder for example. That doesn't make them 'acceptable'. I don't think this crime should go on that special list. I think a reasonable maximum for this crime is a few months in prison, similar to misdemeanor battery.

I don't think the register is justifiable at all, to be honest. We don't have it where I live (Australia) and we don't have higher levels of sexual assault than the U.S. (our rates are still too high). If that was the point you were making, I apologise as I misunderstood you.

I wasn't making that point in this specific post, but I agree. It's a 'tough on crime' measure that doesn't actually help things.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by chris_wot » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:54 PM UTC

lake99 wrote: post #124

acdha wrote: post #66

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KotakuInAction is one of the major GamerGate organizing sites – that's like telling someone to go to the Scientologist Temple for opinions on Dianetics. … and, yes, it's rather relevant: GamerGate started with a bunch of people on 4chan attacking a stranger on social media at the behest of her ex-boyfriend but it escalated quickly to coordinated harassment on a bunch of different forms of electronic media and attempt…

Quite the opposite, Zoe Quinn herself has been discovered to have played a role in SWATing her critics [1]. Incidentally, KotakuInAction has been featured elsewhere today [2]. I agree with your last sentence. [1] http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2015/01/gamergate-swatting... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditoftheday/comments/2yb80x/m...

Oh, go away! These links are hardly credible.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by SamReidHughes » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:55 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #101

SamReidHughes wrote: post #82

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Nobody said it was OK. It's dubious to call it a threat.

It's not at all that dubious. Threatening to "shred her hymen" is, well, a threat. Curt didn't know this guy, and he's a father who just had someone tell them they want to rape his daughter. I'd consider that a threat too.

Amid comments that imply she wants the(ir) D, that comment says she'll be slutting around with him, first.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by chris_wot » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:59 PM UTC

SamReidHughes wrote: post #135

chris_wot wrote: post #101

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It's not at all that dubious. Threatening to "shred her hymen" is, well, a threat. Curt didn't know this guy, and he's a father who just had someone tell them they want to rape his daughter. I'd consider that a threat too.

Amid comments that imply she wants the(ir) D, that comment says she'll be slutting around with him, first.

Completely irrelevant. If you told me that my daughter was "slutting around", then I'd assume she was being forced. I'd be even more likely to consider you a rapist.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by lake99 » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 6:59 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #134

lake99 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the opposite, Zoe Quinn herself has been discovered to have played a role in SWATing her critics [1]. Incidentally, KotakuInAction has been featured elsewhere today [2]. I agree with your last sentence. [1] http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2015/01/gamergate-swatting... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditoftheday/comments/2yb80x/m...

Oh, go away! These links are hardly credible.

As opposed to the credible links you have provided?

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by chris_wot » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 7:01 PM UTC

lake99 wrote: post #137

chris_wot wrote: post #134

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Oh, go away! These links are hardly credible.

As opposed to the credible links you have provided?

I need to provide credible links to prove that someone didn't do something?

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by lake99 » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 7:05 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #138

lake99 wrote: post #137

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As opposed to the credible links you have provided?

I need to provide credible links to prove that someone didn't do something?

How about shedding light on the matter with actual information rather than trying to score with empty rhetoric? I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by chris_wot » Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 7:05 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #92

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #88

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I don't know if it's okay, but it is a fact that celebrities and common folk are held to different public standards. This has been true since the days of village gossiping to the present where countless publications exist for the sole purpose of serving as trash rags and yellow tabloids on the private lives of high-profile public figures, going day by day without significant legal troubles.

"I don't know if it's OK" Here's your answer then. It's not, and it never will be.

People can down vote if they want, but it's still not acceptable. It's been interesting watching my comment's score going up and down like a yoyo though.