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Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Too bad he doesn't go into how he managed to track the 9 people down who he called out. Was he able to do it because he is a famous baseball player and has the resources and connections to make it happen or is it something any normal person on the street can do to stand up for themselves?

It's remarkable how little Internet trolls do to conceal their identities. I see amazingly bigoted stuff posted under real names on the local newspaper's comment section.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Ridiculous. Maybe we should prosecute people who talk about overthrowing the government on twitter with treason - they're threats! And safety is important! These threats on the internet aren't acceptable, but neither is your reaction to them. There is a vast difference between threatening…

You read his statement different then I did. He's not saying that people who makes these statements be labelled as sex offenders. He's saying that people who make these statements be brought to task. If a law has been violated, then charged, and if the court determines there is reason to label them as a sex offender, then so be it.

From grandparent:

> ...labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register.

I understand you're pointing out the fact that grandparent said "if convicted," but parent's point is that _even if convicted_, being put on a registry for the rest of your life is extreme.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same kind of deluded apologism that the gamer gate crowd uses and it is dangerous. How can anyone judge the credibility of a threat made by a stranger on the internet? A threat is a threat.

>A threat is a threat. I disagree completely, especially in the eyes of the law. If a comedian says he's going to kill someone, nobody is going to prosecute him. Threats have to be creditable. The tweets posted by Kurt all make some reference to his baseball career and then try to use that to make sexual jokes about his daughter. They are just terrible jokes and should be socially ostracized, but we should not be usi…

The question is, do these type of comments on Twitter cause harm? If you've read anything by people being subjected to online bullying and harassment then you know that it does cause psychological harm by itself. Especially when a number of people all start in on one person, but even one person can cause a lot of fear and harm from cyber stalking someone. Does someone doing this deserve to have their life ruined, probably not, but they should not be free from all repercussions.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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post #60

Famous people leach fame into others by interacting with them. The easiest way to force someone to interact with you is to hit them somewhere vulnerable. Mr Schilling either wasn't aware of his vulnerability or hoped that it wouldn't be exploited. When it did get exploited, he didn't try to hide it, leaving a gaping wound for even more famewhores to leech fame from him. It worked, because I saw their tweets and I'm n…

What would happen to someone who made comments like these about Obama's daughters?

I'm pretty sure lots of people do this.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Ridiculous. Maybe we should prosecute people who talk about overthrowing the government on twitter with treason - they're threats! And safety is important! These threats on the internet aren't acceptable, but neither is your reaction to them. There is a vast difference between threatening…

I think you're engaging in the common fallacy of dismissing things that happen on the internet as "not real." It's long past time we, as a society, grew out of such childish thinking.

As parent pointed out, these things occur in "real life" and are no less extreme. Streaking, being underage and sexting, having consensual relationships with someone slightly younger but under the age of consent, etc.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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post #60

Famous people leach fame into others by interacting with them. The easiest way to force someone to interact with you is to hit them somewhere vulnerable. Mr Schilling either wasn't aware of his vulnerability or hoped that it wouldn't be exploited. When it did get exploited, he didn't try to hide it, leaving a gaping wound for even more famewhores to leech fame from him. It worked, because I saw their tweets and I'm n…

What would happen to someone who made comments like these about Obama's daughters?

They wouldn't expect to make international news by being mentioned in a blog post from the president, that's for sure.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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post #30

Too bad he doesn't go into how he managed to track the 9 people down who he called out. Was he able to do it because he is a famous baseball player and has the resources and connections to make it happen or is it something any normal person on the street can do to stand up for themselves?

Most of these people, I'm sure, had their real name on the account, or had their account linked to from some page with their real name, so Googling for their handle would easily find it.

At that point, as he mentioned, many of these people were college athletes, so their names would also show up on rosters and various campus newspaper accounts of games.

While it is possible to harass anonymously if you try, it's pretty likely that many of these people didn't even try; they just didn't think and said the first thing that came to mind that they knew would get a rise out of Curt Schilling.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Why is it so hard for twitter to implement some optional filter for this stuff?

You have a complete history of a users tweets and a record of how long the person has been active, number of followers, textual analysis of the tweets, block/mute status with respect to other people, whether you follow ect. It seems like it should be really easy for twitter to put messages into a spam/harassment folder, never to be seen by the target.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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post #60

Famous people leach fame into others by interacting with them. The easiest way to force someone to interact with you is to hit them somewhere vulnerable. Mr Schilling either wasn't aware of his vulnerability or hoped that it wouldn't be exploited. When it did get exploited, he didn't try to hide it, leaving a gaping wound for even more famewhores to leech fame from him. It worked, because I saw their tweets and I'm n…

Pretty much. Sadly people will do the dumbest things for attention. Just look at the number of down right degrading "entertainment" shows that are out there, and that they seem to never run out of participants.
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