Anyone know what software they're using at 1:53?
Ableton Live Developers at Work [video]
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#12Anyone know what software they're using at 1:53?
This is kinda a somewhat wild guess, but it looks to me like SmartGit from syntevo with some custom settings.
Re: Ableton Live Developers at Work [video]
#13For people not familiar with it, Ableton is an astonishing piece of content-creation software. When it came out it felt revolutionary in terms of speed, solidity and cleanliness of the UI.
Personally I've always found the UI rigid and not quite right, like everything has one level of indirection and/or constraint it doesn't really need.
I dislike the fact there's no standard file manager dialog, and the preview doesn't quite do what you expect - sometimes it plays-on-click and sometimes it doesn't, and I have no idea why - and the event editor is hard to navigate, especially if you want to micro-edit, and Arrangement mode still doesn't quite make sense to me, even though I've been using it for a long time now.
It's true that Live has that let's-all-Mondrian Euro look, which is a thing, I guess.
I used to use Sony Acid, so the time-stretch-on-a-grid idea wasn't new to me. And I really preferred the Acid UI. It didn't look as nice, being unapologetically Windows. But it never forced me to stop and think about how to do something, which Live certainly did.
In Acid you could just draw loops directly into an arrangement. This always seems complicated in Live, because of the switching between Session and Arrangement modes.
9 is mostly okay. I still think a lot of UI assumptions feel alien and not quite elegantly minimal. But having an open API is a big deal for users who want to do more than Mondrian-with-loops. And as a long-time Max user, M4L is a fun thing to have.
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#14For people not familiar with it, Ableton is an astonishing piece of content-creation software. When it came out it felt revolutionary in terms of speed, solidity and cleanliness of the UI.
Nothing like a demo to see its power, what about reverse engineering a mega hit everyone heard : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
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#15Wonderful video. I am a white man of european descent so it looks like I would be a great fit to work here.
Re: Ableton Live Developers at Work [video]
#16For people not familiar with it, Ableton is an astonishing piece of content-creation software. When it came out it felt revolutionary in terms of speed, solidity and cleanliness of the UI.
It really is fantastic. It's especially amazing when compared to the other audio programs that try to mimic the hardware, literally, down to having a physics engine drive the UI and making users drag cables around. Ableton's UI is a wonderful, straightforward, usable system. It reminds me a bit of the discreet logic software like combustion and inferno - doesn't look like a "native" UI, but once you start using it you realise holy shit, this is totally optimized for workflow and pixels aren't wasted on pointless chrome.
Ableton's automation system is slick too, making it trivial to hookup any key/MIDI input to anything. I got coded up an Xbox360 controller to work with it and it took under 2 hours flat.
I'm just a bit concerned for Ableton, because Live 8 seemed to be the big release (almost 6 years ago?), and Live 9 was not that huge of a leap and 9.1 was mainly bugfixes? From an outsiders view, it looks a tad bit worrying, like, what's going on? OTOH I guess it's good if they cede their massive headstart a bit as it'll drive more competition :).
Ableton's hardware controller is cool, but without actual pixel screens it seems rather weak compared to the Maschine stuff. Seeing how cheap screens are, I find it odd they can't toss on some real screens instead of dot-matrix ones on a $500 device. I think it'd be pretty wicked to be able to drop full devices onto the hardware, containing their full or optimized UI, then work more on-device.
But I'm not really an artist at all so perhaps I just don't get it.
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#17Last time I used Ableton (2011), the recording cut off somewhere between 5 and 6 hours. From the email exchange I had with them, this was because they were using 32bit ints instead of 64bit ones. For a company that touts its partnership with Serato, and the ability of their program to work with Serato's DJ tools to specifically record DJ mixes (which can be many hours or even days long), this is absolutely unacceptable. Perhaps they fixed this since then, but after experiencing that, I could no longer see Ableton as anything but amateur software at best. The UI is not very intuitive or particularly great either, at least for composition, compared to other music software.
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#18This style of video is the future of marketing, though I would tone (ha!) it down a bit. It is like a personal brand for a corporation, giving a soft persona to a logo and a product. Another, absolutely brilliant move by Ableton was to host a MOOC, https://www.coursera.org/course/abletonlive
Completely agree. I'm not that tuned into the marketing industry at the moment, but have wondered for a while why we haven't seen more news organizations branching into marketing. I can see that there would probably be concerns with conflicts of interest, etc. But if done right (ie. keeping the marketing branch separate but connected) I think it would be a great match. My reasoning? Companies don't just want commerci…
News organizations already do this, they're called ads. You have (in theory) a clearly defined content section that is (in theory) honest, and not biased or bribed. This section earns consumers trust in the news organizations brand and keeps eyeballs returning to their content. Then you have the advertising section that is 100% biased to those buying the space. News organizations have always been primarily an advertising business, getting eyes to ads.
The danger is letting companies influence sections that are believed to be objective and honest. One example of this is Michael Arrington the founder and former editor-in-chief of TechCrunch who is famous for investing in start-ups that his blogs would then cover. Not only that but he was partner in two investment funds during his tenure and now has his own fund, CrunchFund. All this to say that he has special interests in dozens of companies at any one time. When AOL bought TechCrunch they eventually let him go because in part of his conflicts of interest.
Re: Ableton Live Developers at Work [video]
#19For people not familiar with it, Ableton is an astonishing piece of content-creation software. When it came out it felt revolutionary in terms of speed, solidity and cleanliness of the UI.
Personally I've always found the UI rigid and not quite right, like everything has one level of indirection and/or constraint it doesn't really need. I dislike the fact there's no standard file manager dialog, and the preview doesn't quite do what you expect - sometimes it plays-on-click and sometimes it doesn't, and I have no idea why - and the event editor is hard to navigate, especially if you want to micro-edit,…
It's been a long time since I've used the Acid software, but I don't recall it being aimed at impromptu or live performance. Whereas Live is ... well Live. Wireup all sorts of stuff, forget arrangement view completely (or maybe, leave it running on record), and then just jam out.
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#20I've been a big Ableton user for many years now, after I "graduated" from cubase and moved on from rock to electronic many years ago.
In fact, I self-produced a tribute to Snowden's NSA revelations[1] using no external sources besides my trusty Martin. It's kinda corny and the duel overlapping lead is out there, but overall it was an interesting exercise in learning the power of Live.
I think i did it sitting on my couch (no studio just a condenser mic) over a few days.
It is a ridiculously amazing music production platform, and my only wish is that I could be 15 again and start with it as my instrument of choice instead of guitar.
Great job by the development team in fixing almost all the crashes that plagued it for years...its very solid now.
[1]https://soundcloud.com/lostvegas-productions/for-what-its-wo...