This bakery will hire anyone

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Post by nkurz » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 7:08 PM UTC

This bakery will hire anyone
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Post by jordhy » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 7:58 PM UTC

Respectfully, I don't think immigrants belong in a list including felons and addicts. Can't we just get along?

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Post by vermontdevil » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 7:59 PM UTC

In case any is wondering, I looked at the comments under that article and saw the stats:

According to IPCH's Spring 2014 Uncensored Magazine, 35% of open hires make it through Greyston Bakery's apprenticeship program.

Source| http://www.icphusa.org/filelibrary/ICPH_UNCENSORED%205.1_Spr...

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Post by denim_chicken » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:01 PM UTC

Why did the moderators change the title from "Felons, addicts, immigrants: This bakery will hire anyone"?

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Post by trhway » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:03 PM UTC

It is our individual and societal lizard brain that drives our puritan style shying away from "fallen" the way it was reacting toward lepers for centuries and millennia. It takes an intelligent effort to overcome it.

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Post by Red_Tarsius » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:06 PM UTC

tl;dr -> Despite my doubts, Brady makes an interesting argument for open hiring and the social duties of an employer in traditional businesses. Here's the meat of the article:

> “Low-wage workers tend to have a fair amount of turnover — if you make investments in a workforce it’s very difficult to judge if they are going to stay,” Brady said. “So companies try to make as low an investment as possible — and that means they are doing very little to break the chain of poverty.”

Greyston takes the opposite approach.

“Rather than spending money on interviews and background checks, we are spending it on training and development,” he said.

New workers go through an intensive training period and a 10-month apprenticeship. People who aren’t pulling their weight get fired. But there are plenty of workers who do just fine, Brady said.

EDIT: If you downvote, at least write down why.

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Post by jMyles » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:06 PM UTC

jordhy wrote: post #2

Respectfully, I don't think immigrants belong in a list including felons and addicts. Can't we just get along?

Why do felons and addicts belong on the same list?

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Post by company » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:06 PM UTC

do they mean illegal immigrants? I was not aware of any place in the US that made policy to not hire immigrants...

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Post by jim_greco » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:06 PM UTC

The lack of second chances we give in America to some of our most unfortunate means that even non-violent offenses can have lifelong consequences. It's shameful.

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Post by JshWright » Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 8:09 PM UTC

Red_Tarsius wrote: post #6

tl;dr -> Despite my doubts, Brady makes an interesting argument for open hiring and the social duties of an employer in traditional businesses. Here's the meat of the article: > “Low-wage workers tend to have a fair amount of turnover — if you make investments in a workforce it’s very difficult to judge if they are going to stay,” Brady said. “So companies try to make as low an investment as possible — and that means…

I suspect the ROI on training is also much higher than it is on interviews and screening (at least for these sorts of entry-level positions).

That's less about social duty, and more about spending money efficiently.