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Facebook post written in Florida lands US man in United Arab Emirates jail

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I really can't understand why well-off Westerners continue to work in or visit the UAE, Qatar, etc. You have a choice. Unless you're doing some kind of humanitarian or cultural work which actually requires you to be there, stay the hell away.

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Women might feel safe "walking around" but certain violations of Sharia law just might get them stoned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_Arab_Emirat...

Re: Facebook post written in Florida lands US man in United Arab Emirates jail

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The unusual thing here is that a man is being prosecuted for a Facebook post. The fact that he is being prosecuted for something he wrote in the US is not at all unusual. The United States routinely prosecutes Americans who engage in actions which are illegal in the United States, even if the actions are legal in the country in which the action takes place. The US government invokes this extraterritorial jurisdiction mainly for two categories of crimes: sex crimes against minors and corruption/bribery.

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This is not exactly in the same category, but as I was coming back to Australia a few weeks ago I saw a sign stating that Australia considered child abuse committed internationally to be a crime and would prosecute. With regard to this particular case, it really is your responsibility to know the laws of the place you're going to.

I always assumed this was because Australia was relatively close to "popular" sex tourism destinations. You don't want to be known for exporting child abusers.

Re: Facebook post written in Florida lands US man in United Arab Emirates jail

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I'm not a lawyer, but why would he admit to it?

> "I just couldn't register it in my head because as an American growing up in the United States, the First Amendment right is just ingrained in my brain," he told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

I think the correct defense is to make them prove that he wrote, then if they prove he did, start saying "well I thought it was OK".

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I'm not a lawyer, but why would he admit to it? > "I just couldn't register it in my head because as an American growing up in the United States, the First Amendment right is just ingrained in my brain," he told The Associated Press on Wednesday. I think the correct defense is to make them prove that he wrote, then if they prove he did, start saying "well I thought it was OK".

This isn't America. They don't have to prove (in a court of law) that he wrote it. Their accusation is sufficient. The facebook page has his name on it, "everybody knows" that he wrote it.

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This is not exactly in the same category, but as I was coming back to Australia a few weeks ago I saw a sign stating that Australia considered child abuse committed internationally to be a crime and would prosecute. With regard to this particular case, it really is your responsibility to know the laws of the place you're going to.

I always assumed this was because Australia was relatively close to "popular" sex tourism destinations. You don't want to be known for exporting child abusers.

I think it's for that reason and also a broader international effort to combat the problem.

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Well, it depends on how much one is willing to risk for a given salary. I bet the guy was well paid in KSA. He was just ignorant of that specific risk when going back there or too arrogant to think he would get caught. I know a lot of people that work in Singapore too.A beautiful place but you'd better make sure you know the implications of doing things that would seem harmless in the west. Because being a westerner…

I'm curious: what kinds of things would those be? I've always thought Singapore was a quite westernized country, but I guess I'm wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore

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I'm curious: what kinds of things would those be? I've always thought Singapore was a quite westernized country, but I guess I'm wrong.

Details here: http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/country/si... Is it a modern country ? sure but westernized ? absolutely not.

Singapore has historically been recognised as the most Western country in the Asian region. Sure they are tougher on certain crimes but then again the US justice system is arguably far worse (trying children as adults, capital punishment for mentally challenged).

But let's be honest what on earth does "western" mean in this day and age. You would be hard pressed to see any different in children from Bangkok, Manila, Seoul, Tokyo, London, New York, Los Angeles etc. They all like Western food/music/culture/websites/technologies/products etc.

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