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GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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post #54

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The enterprising hacker could always use a LabSat[1] device to play back a bogus GPS trace. No physical connection to the board is required. [1] http://www.labsat.co.uk

It's so much easier to just keep passing it around to your friends so they can attach it to as many different cars (or other kinds of vehicle) as possible. Imagine what your fans in government would think if the logs of your car included long periods over water or a trip to the stratosphere or a trek through the woods. Or they decided to find you once you decided to seemingly leave civilization behind to discover you…

I think I'd try to pop it into the wheel well of the nearest police car.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

#82
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A friend of mine hired someone to gather data on his cheating wife. A device that looked similar to this was used on her car. $400 for a month of real-time location data. Maybe this has nothing to do with conference this person was attending.

That can't possibly be legal.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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looks like Private Investigator catalog equipment in the states. Big, clunky, and built to suit a million different uses. Dev board + sensors + 3g = a million different reconfigurable spy toys. Although I hope it's a three-letter agency, because that'd make me a bit less frightened of them. Also, I don't know why everyone is up-in-arms about the solder job quality. Rip apart a Chinese Futaba-knockoff RC transmitter,…

According to the media article linked on the submission, the activist was stopped for a "routine search" of the car for more than one hour on the frontier with France by spanish national police (CNP). One week ago she was stopped again near the city were this convention took place. So yeah, even if this is private investigator grade hardware, according to the info available it would not surprise me if this was either…

Why pay extra if you don't have to? Looks perfectly serviceable to me.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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You can replace "requested" with "threatened everything short of violence"

It's not like they don't know where it is, you'd think they could just go get it themselves.

They wouldn't know where it was after I disconnected the battery.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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I guess it's a sad world when I breathe a sigh of relief upon seeing that this didn't take place in the US. I like how the agency gummed over the chip silkscreens so you can't see what chips they're using. Even though it's obvious that one is flash, another is a GPS module, and the third is the micro. And it appears that some scraping will show you the part numbers anyway. Amateur hour.

The goop on the chips is the funniest part - I've taken apart various bits of equipment (mostly from China) and they often attempt to obscure the part numbers to obfuscate, but even they know to grind/laser them off instead of putting goop on top... and it's still possible to figure out what they are just by their package and pinouts. The low integration of the design suggests that it's probably at least 5 or more ye…

The 'goop' could be a reaction product of applied acid to remove the markings on the chips.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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post #82
post #74

A friend of mine hired someone to gather data on his cheating wife. A device that looked similar to this was used on her car. $400 for a month of real-time location data. Maybe this has nothing to do with conference this person was attending.

That can't possibly be legal.

It may depend on which state, and sometimes it's a grey area if the car is jointly owned (since you could argue the "owner is consenting" to the tracking). http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/11/...

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The enterprising hacker could always use a LabSat[1] device to play back a bogus GPS trace. No physical connection to the board is required. [1] http://www.labsat.co.uk

It's so much easier to just keep passing it around to your friends so they can attach it to as many different cars (or other kinds of vehicle) as possible. Imagine what your fans in government would think if the logs of your car included long periods over water or a trip to the stratosphere or a trek through the woods. Or they decided to find you once you decided to seemingly leave civilization behind to discover you…

Hook it up to a food truck. It will take them a while to realize they're following around a mobile taco vendor.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

#88

During the ' Troubles' in Northern Ireland, chassis inspection mirrors were a common sight. These were large convex mirrors mounted horizontally on castors and with a long handle. They were slid under the car to look for suspicious packages that may have been attached covertly with malicious intent. Very quick to use and were widely issued to individuals who might have been at risk. So it was common to see people usi…

"With malicious intent" in this case usually meant an explosive device designed to kill the driver of the vehicle for anyone reading who might not get the context.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

#89

They missed a golden opportunity to attach the device to a politician, high ranking official, or executive's car.

Or more simply, just throw it in the back of a passing pickup truck (like in "Short Circuit", when Number 5 realizes he's being tracked by a beacon in his vehicle. Unfortunately I can't find the clip on youtube.)

Good luck finding a pickup in Valencia, though.

Re: GPS tracking device found on an activist's car

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Seriously. It's extremely important that we as engineers be ethical about what we build. If you are enabling a surveillance state, I think many people would consider that to be harmful to public welfare.

The problem is that a lot of people genuinely think "If a large institution approved of it, it must be good". Which is a lot scarier than people not giving a damn about good or evil. Morality is not something you outsource.

A lot of people (probably the vast majority, at least in the West) also believe that, because you can occasionally vote on things, anything the government does is fine because, after all, "government is us."
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