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Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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If I understand his point he is saying, Let's slow down the trivial things like Youtube and games to make real time road assistance better. How is this related? And I don't see the Taliban connection.

He uses "Taliban" as an image for extremism, where some other would say "nazi". In this case, he refers to "fair use" extremist who want the latest episode of their favorite show never to buffer, even if this mean slowing down other.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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Server hosting companies like OVH maintain their own lines or earmarked-guaranteed bandwidth shared-lines (I imagine the intercontinental ones) between their data centers. It may not be practical for hospitals and other real time needs based organizations to maintain their own physical limes, but isn't this the point where such an organization directly makes a business contract with a near backbone provider like level3?

If you need guarantees, I really doubt civilian or home consumer ISPs will fill the need.

If congestion is a problem so packets are unfavorably delayed or dropped, shouldn't that mean those which need greater guarantees provision their communication assets accordingly?

Traders in Chicago and New York are coming up with their own solutions, be it more direct and dedicated fiber optic lines or even direct to direct chained microwave line-of-sight towers. Net neutrality or not, they need greater guarantees than offered to home consumers or small businesses, and I doubt most ISPs can provide such guarantees with our infrastructure.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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He is so completely full of shit and blatantly trying to use rhetoric to justify the fact that he's going to vote for corporate interests that bought and paid for him. I can't help but get angry about this.

What's that fallacy called where you fabricate a problem where there isn't one?

Net neutrality advocates have never, ever wanted to limit what you're allowed to pay for as a consumer, and are pretty much unanimously in favor of distinguishing between paying customers to adjust connection speeds and uptime.

If a hospital wants to pay $5000/month for a direct, guaranteed connection to their doctors, they are free to do that. It's no different from paying for a faster or slower connection.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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Server hosting companies like OVH maintain their own lines or earmarked-guaranteed bandwidth shared-lines (I imagine the intercontinental ones) between their data centers. It may not be practical for hospitals and other real time needs based organizations to maintain their own physical limes, but isn't this the point where such an organization directly makes a business contract with a near backbone provider like leve…

I suspect the first neutrino-based communications system will be used for trading.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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He is so completely full of shit and blatantly trying to use rhetoric to justify the fact that he's going to vote for corporate interests that bought and paid for him. I can't help but get angry about this. What's that fallacy called where you fabricate a problem where there isn't one? Net neutrality advocates have never, ever wanted to limit what you're allowed to pay for as a consumer, and are pretty much unanimous…

I had no idea German politicians could be as virulently incoherent as Americans. Huh.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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I notice that he does not at any point explain in any way why net neutrality as an "issue" (whatever that means) is "Taliban-like" (whatever that means).

He's not even trying to be believable. Not even trying to make a serious argument. He therefore deserves scorn.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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This doesn't even make sense. So, if the kids in the back are playing games and the providers pay more to have access than the cars networked safety feature - we're in a worse off place.

Also, I'm not so sure there are any issues with capacity and more is being added daily. Capacity for networked devices is not like making capacity for ambulances (not his analogy but essentially his point) and firetrucks.

The second a government or any entity starts to decide what is first class, second class and n-class information and thus priority, the internet goes from a place of equality and freedom to a fascist place controlled by those who have dominion.

Re: Net neutrality is a “Taliban-like issue”, says Europe’s top digital policymaker

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If I understand his point he is saying, Let's slow down the trivial things like Youtube and games to make real time road assistance better. How is this related? And I don't see the Taliban connection.

He's trying to argue that net neutrality would mean a child watching youtube could slow down another user's content, like a hospital. This is silly and shows he knows nothing about current technology. The current system allows customers to pay for guaranteed speeds from their ISP. The net neutrality issue involves the ISP charging content providers to delivery content to their customers who are already paying.
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