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Re: Fired

#11

Post by sridca » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:28 PM UTC

Back in December 2012, Julie Horvath expressed her desire to have Zach fired. I wonder if these two incidents are actually related.

  @Holman is my ex-partner. He was complicit in the actions of 
  both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to 
  plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the 
  company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret 
  being kind to him in previous interviews.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/ims-and-email-support-allegation...

Re: Fired

#12

Post by jared314 » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:28 PM UTC

> Part of the problem with not admitting publicly that you were fired is that people inevitably assume you're moving onto something bigger and better

I thought the issue with admitting it was that people would now question your reliability as an honest contributor to future workplaces.

Re: Fired

#13

Post by mrb » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:28 PM UTC

Human nature is really amazing. After the reading the first 4 paragraph I saw his openness and honesty. I felt compassion and trust. And I was already thinking to myself "Zach really looks like a cool guy; if he is skilled I would probably hire him", without attaching any significance whatsoever to the fact he was fired. If you are reading this, Zach, continue to be open, honest, accept your mistakes, show you do learn from them to continuously become a better person, and you will have a good life :)

Re: Fired

#14

Post by Xorlev » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:30 PM UTC

niche wrote: post #3

Why is this at the top? Because corporate junkies be all like ohh shoot am I gonna get fired for reading Hacker News....

Maybe because it touches on our own fears of inadequacy. "I mean whoa, if Zach Holman was fired from GitHub, what does that mean about me?"

Of course, it doesn't mean much. Different situations, different people. I can't deny that when I saw this I thought about myself and my own company in the context of termination.

Re: Fired

#15

Post by lucasjcm » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:31 PM UTC

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it bad for him to talk about this publicly and insinuate that his manager was shit and that he was fired for no good reason?

This situation reminds me a lot of the time an ex-employee of reddit complained about his firing, on reddit (!!), and was publicly called out for it by reddit's CEO at the time [1].

[1] https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_r...

Re: Fired

#16

Post by eridius » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:32 PM UTC

sridca wrote: post #11

Back in December 2012, Julie Horvath expressed her desire to have Zach fired. I wonder if these two incidents are actually related. @Holman is my ex-partner. He was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews. http://vall…

That was my first thought too. But this seems too far after that incident for it to be the cause.

Re: Fired

#17

Post by j_baker » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:33 PM UTC

sridca wrote: post #11

Back in December 2012, Julie Horvath expressed her desire to have Zach fired. I wonder if these two incidents are actually related. @Holman is my ex-partner. He was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews. http://vall…

If it were connected, you would figure the firing would come sooner than two years later. Though it is possible there was another incident.

Re: Fired

#18

Post by chuhnk » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:33 PM UTC

eridius wrote: post #16

sridca wrote: post #11

Back in December 2012, Julie Horvath expressed her desire to have Zach fired. I wonder if these two incidents are actually related. @Holman is my ex-partner. He was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews. http://vall…

That was my first thought too. But this seems too far after that incident for it to be the cause.

No. It's a great way to separate one's involvement from the issue. Things like this happen all the time and you don't hear about it because it's treated exactly like this. CEOs are displaced at the top level in a way that makes it look like a natural next step.

Re: Fired

#19

Post by exelius » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:34 PM UTC

lucasjcm wrote: post #15

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it bad for him to talk about this publicly and insinuate that his manager was shit and that he was fired for no good reason? This situation reminds me a lot of the time an ex-employee of reddit complained about his firing, on reddit (!!), and was publicly called out for it by reddit's CEO at the time [1]. [1] https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_r...

I actually don't feel he trashed GitHub at all. The article was more about the stigma of being fired and how it made him feel versus whether his firing was valid or not.

Re: Fired

#20

Post by minimaxir » Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 7:34 PM UTC

eridius wrote: post #16

sridca wrote: post #11

Back in December 2012, Julie Horvath expressed her desire to have Zach fired. I wonder if these two incidents are actually related. @Holman is my ex-partner. He was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews. http://vall…

That was my first thought too. But this seems too far after that incident for it to be the cause.

The investigation into the claims was performed and completed in April 2014. https://github.com/blog/1823-results-of-the-github-investiga...

I don't believe it would take a year to fire someone.