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Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Picnik was a Flash based photo filter editor. Can one recommend a Flash/HTML5/WebGL based alternative service?

Picnik was best of its kind and IMHO better than Photoshop default filters.

Google bought the service, there were plans to add it to Google+ Photos, never saw the great Picnik filters again.

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I've found need for a note taking mobile app recently, but after trying to use Keep and seeing that it has zero organizational tools such as tags or folders, I just started to use Evernote instead. Frankly, it is nearly impossible to recommend Keep when Evernote exists. Until they have, at minimum, some way to organize notes, it's just a pile of notes sitting in one window. But it would still be a hard sell when comp…

I've been using OneNote, solely because I can use a keyboard shortcuts to click+drag screenshots or pop up a new ad-hoc, unfiled note immediately . Does evernote do this?

If you disable the annotation tool popup after taking a screenshot in the settings, then yea, it creates a "Screen clip" note with the image immediately after you finish dragging the screenshot range. (Of course, you can annotate later.)

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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How many of these were companies acquired by Google, and then dismantled after the project didn't gain traction? Not bashing Google, but there's always posts on Medium about how some startup got bought by Google, promised they wouldn't change anything and within a few months, simply dropped the project and laid off the employees.

Some, but while being an acquisition is a small risk factor, Google is pretty ruthless about killing its own stuff as well. In my dataset from 2013 ( http://www.gwern.net/Google%20shutdowns ) there were 63 acquisitions vs 287 internal products, and being an acquisition increased the odds of death by an OR of 1.13 (small and not statistically-significant).

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Yes, if the code is on Github. However not everyone who publishes code uses Github (myself included)

Why not? (I'm genuinely interested here - not trying to snark)

Because not everyone here is the teenage girl version of a programmer who only goes after the newest fad without taking in account the actual features of a system and practical implications of promoting a monopoly.

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

Google Desktop Search - even from a cursory glance at the comments in this thread and the absence of its mention - is by far the most under-appreciated Google product ever. That sucker was good. Great even. It would find things across browsers, through documents and files and even collate results from web searches that most browsers - sometimes even Chrome to this day - missed or never registered in the history, in t…

Google desktop search was great. At the high of the desktop search engine race, it competed with OSX Spotlight and Windows desktop search (and various others like Yahoo X11, Copernic desktop search). Google worked on 3 major OS and run on a local web server. It looked like a local Google search and indexed various file formats incl. iFilter support.

As basically all companies stopped further developing desktop search products, I needed a proper replacement. I developed an enterprise/desktop search engine last year that basically reimplements Google desktop search including advanced search syntax and support for various file formats.

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

It is a little unfair, I agree. And I think it's all too easy to be snarky about other peoples hard work (haters gotta hate), especially when it doesn't work out. At the same time, Google seems to want it both ways. They have an idea and use their size to attract users and, perhaps even unintentionally, effectively block others from implementing the idea or scare others away (a size thing). Then, if they decide they…

Totally agree on wanting it both ways. When you associate a product with a brand, you are attempting to overcome objections by saying "This brand supports this product and is putting its reputation behind it."

If Google wants to experiment, create projects that don't have the Google brand (they just use G+ login like any other startup) and then reveal it was Google all along.

Let the projects succeed on their own merits, with their own marketing. If you tie in the Google brand you are setting expectations that this will be a long-lasting effort.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Talk was replaced by Hangouts, not became. There are important differences because talk was based on open models, and Hangouts... was not.

no, talk literally became hangouts. For the android and chrome apps at least, the change was pushed as an update to the existing talk app. There's differences between what it is now and what it was before, but it was an update.

Odd, I have a memory of my phone telling me that hangouts was a replacement for talk..

Not that it matters. Pushing a change "as an update" is a detail of how the app database works. It has no bearing on whether it's a replacement or not.

Wikipedia sure seems to think they're different things, and they love to merge articles.

Also if it's not a replacement they sure could have chosen better wording for: "Google Talk app for Windows will stop working on Feb 16 2015. It is replaced by the new Hangouts Chrome app."

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> You can't have it both ways, people. Of course we can. It's just that companies are now so geared to quarterly roadmaps that nothing has time to gain momentum unless it becomes a phenomenon. I see this with airlines as well; they launch a route in the middle of winter, or on a business route with schedules that are awkward for meetings, and then can it two months later because 'no-one uses it'. Which dissuades othe…

No, we really can't have it both ways. Obviously (clearly) they will keep products that have sufficient momentum. With a little thought, however, it will be obvious to you that the consumer's definition of "sufficient" cannot possibly match a company's definition in 100% of cases: there will be a grey area where at least some people will like mouthwash-flavored bubble gum, but not enough people do that the company ca…

Why can't we have it both ways?

You have this unstated assumption that they have to quickly abandon products that don't gain traction. But that's not true. It's short-term thinking over long-term.

When a company spends 30 man years developing a product, they can set aside 1 or 2 extra for long term maintenance. By promising or consistently providing this, they can build customer trust and get more users.

Keeping digital services up is cheap. It's shameful whenever DRM or video game servers go down after just a couple years because the company ran out of money or doesn't care anymore. These things could have been funded upfront with the tiniest fraction of the budget.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

Google Desktop Search - even from a cursory glance at the comments in this thread and the absence of its mention - is by far the most under-appreciated Google product ever. That sucker was good. Great even. It would find things across browsers, through documents and files and even collate results from web searches that most browsers - sometimes even Chrome to this day - missed or never registered in the history, in t…

Yeah, me too. It seems like desktop search as a product sector just kind of fell out of favor one day -- one moment there were a bunch of products scrapping it out, the next they were all gone. I have no idea why, I found it desktop search incredibly useful and would also happily have paid for a good product. But no really good ones exist anymore.

The even more mind-boggling thing is that for Google especially, desktop search would seem to be a huge opportunity. Imagine how precisely you could target ads to users if they let you scan their entire hard drive! Jeez louise.

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GitHub's search doesn't support regular expressions. (I'm aware you can clone the repo and search it locally, but that somewhat defeats the point - especially for large projects.)

I'm pretty sure Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood, and probably a lot of other github employees, lurk around here... if you harp on it enough they'll probably make it happen.

What do Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood have to do with Github?
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