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Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Wave was a replacement to email, not exactly an online "notepad." It wasn't about documents at all, no more so than email today is. So you're right that it's not like Slack or Hipchat, but I think you may also misunderstand its purpose.

Google pitched it as a replacement for email (another reason for people being confused about it's purpose) but the reality was that it was absolutely nothing like email. A wave was a document that you could edit with other people. The 'about' page: https://web.archive.org/web/20100427183005/http://wave.googl... Actually, looking at the screenshot on that page, I can see why s_dev sees it as something like Slack. It h…

Yeah I always saw it as a mix between an instant message, a wiki page, and an email with real time collab. I really loved Wave because for interactions that were not well defined (such as building a knowledge base) I believe you could start waves from parts of a wave, and playback how each component of the information came together in a form of primitive version control.

Simplifying the interface, inviting more people to the beta when it was originally out, and increasing the ability to federate easily were three big things that were missing from wave for more people to adopt it imo.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

> I really don't like things like this.

Really? Can you explain more why. Is there an article accompanying it that shames Google or says anything bad about it. To me it just looks like a company that iterates and is trying new things.

> A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects.

Well it would be bad if they completely threw away the code, and then hired a whole new group of people to work on a similar project. That would make them look worse.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

To me, this is evidence of Google's rather awkward relationship with consumers (i.e. they toss tons of branded endeavors at us, see what sticks), and not a knock against fearlessly trying things or whatever. The best brands are coy and careful with their identity... google sorta slops it around. this is a list of failed consumer facing products more than it is a list of "bad ideas".

You mean their whole mentality of "we built this half baked product, why the hell isn't anyone coming?"

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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post #52
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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

> I really don't like things like this. Really? Can you explain more why. Is there an article accompanying it that shames Google or says anything bad about it. To me it just looks like a company that iterates and is trying new things. > A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Well it would be bad if they completely threw away the code, and then hired a whole new group of peopl…

Nah, the whole reason it exists, and is linked here is to try and pile on that Google is terrible and shuts down products that everyone in the world loves. But the reality is the minor minor subset of the world that is HN loved some of these projects and were upset no one else used them, thus they were shut down.

I haven't seen any accompanying MS articles like this, mainly because there haven't been angry posts here of MS shutting down products we think they should keep running forever that no one uses.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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They forgot Google Code[1]. It's still "up" but it's obvious it's been abandoned by the amount of spam issues that have been building up. I know people like github more than google code - but I personally liked Google Code for it's simplicity.

[1] - https://code.google.com/p/support/issues/list?can=2&q=&sort=...

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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github isn't a replacement?

Yes, if the code is on Github. However not everyone who publishes code uses Github (myself included)

not everyone used Google Code either. What's your point?

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Remember this before you rely too much on a Google product. Google isn't Microsoft and that's okay, but one of Microsoft's strong points is that they keep things around forever. Google still has the start-up culture where you can throw things away that aren't working. The difference is, in most start-ups, you don't have millions of people using the product you just threw away.

I'm using Gmail. Should I be worried?

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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This flakiness is really hurting Google's B2B business. Google tends to do things in a particularly proprietary Googly way that locks companies in, but the history of killing off products makes nobody want to commit to that.

Thus the B2B offerings underperform, making it more likely they'll get killed off.

I follow google reasonably closely and I haven't even heard of a good 40% of these.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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post #58

This flakiness is really hurting Google's B2B business. Google tends to do things in a particularly proprietary Googly way that locks companies in, but the history of killing off products makes nobody want to commit to that. Thus the B2B offerings underperform, making it more likely they'll get killed off. I follow google reasonably closely and I haven't even heard of a good 40% of these.

One of the worst designed products I've ever used was the Google Search Appliance. I'd never recommend it to another developer, the user interface is just terrible. We'd pay a bunch of money and what we got was a hard to set up box that was kind of buggy.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

Yes, Google Checkout became Google Wallet, which shut down their API for digital goods three days ago: https://developers.google.com/wallet/digital/
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