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Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Sorry but if you are taking all the trouble to install Sendy you should look at Mandrill [1].

I use their python api, hooked a Django project with Html editor (ckeditor) and bang.

Magic Formula = Django + Mandrill app + django-ckeditor

Sending more than 1 000 000 mails by month (reaching 1.7M now).

It is fast, it works. The main problem: to reach the support you should use twitter and talk to the monkey.

[1] - https://www.mandrill.com/

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Nice solution to save money, but for a company that is making money, $75 or $100 a month to MailChimp is well worth it. Beyond the time it will take you setup a server, configure it, and install Sendy, there is a huge limitation with SES:

10,000/24hrs at a rate of 5 emails per second.

If your list is decent sized, say 50,000 it would take over 2.5 hours to send your newsletter. Beyond that, MailChimp deals with IP whitelisting, blacklisting, scalability, SPF, DKIM, and the bevy of other e-mail sending nightmares.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

#63

Sorry but if you are taking all the trouble to install Sendy you should look at Mandrill [1]. I use their python api, hooked a Django project with Html editor (ckeditor) and bang. Magic Formula = Django + Mandrill app + django-ckeditor Sending more than 1 000 000 mails by month (reaching 1.7M now). It is fast, it works. The main problem: to reach the support you should use twitter and talk to the monkey. [1] - https:…

Mandrill is great, we use it at https://commando.io, but it is geared toward transactional emails (notifications), not newsletters.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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another shameless plug If you're looking for a hosted alternative to Sendy, please take a look at a project I've been working on for the last year or so: https://emailoctopus.com We're not currently charging anything (still working out a pricing model!) so you only have to pay your SES fees. And as it's hosted on EC2 instances, you'll still get your first 62,000 emails a month under Amazon's free tier.

This looks awesome! Do you have bounce handling built into this?

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

#65

Nice solution to save money, but for a company that is making money, $75 or $100 a month to MailChimp is well worth it. Beyond the time it will take you setup a server, configure it, and install Sendy, there is a huge limitation with SES: 10,000/24hrs at a rate of 5 emails per second. If your list is decent sized, say 50,000 it would take over 2.5 hours to send your newsletter. Beyond that, MailChimp deals with IP wh…

You can apply to get higher send limits. It just starts at 10000. They have limits to frustrate spammers.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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post #52

We've got about 12,000 people on our announce list. I switched us over to Sendy three months ago. It doesn't have the slick, "just works" appeal of MailChimp, but it also doesn't carry the big monthly price tag. We've had the same open and clickthrough rates with Sendy as before, and I haven't encountered any problems getting marked as spam. That said, our entire list is people who actively came to the site and signe…

We switched to Sendy too, because MailChimp's pricing leaves a lot to be desired. We have a list of about 10k subscribers, and we only send a campaign every 2-3 months. I have no idea why this is priced way higher than someone with 1k subscribers would sends 4 campaigns a month. Sendy has worked perfectly for us. The UI could do with a lot of love, but its functionally fine.

Think of a bank - you may pay to have a business bank account. An account with $10K that does 1 transaction every 2-3 months, vs An account with $1K that does 4 transactions every month.

There is no real difference in cost to the transactions themselves (to an extent, and in this example). You are willing to pay to have the ability to transact, regardless of the size. The whole point here is that your 10K is more valuable than their 1K, therefore you would in theory pay more to have the ability to transact (regardless of # of transactions). I agree though - its gouging for no reason.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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post #9

shameless plug I built SimplerSES for the same reason - a cheaper alternative to MailChimp using AWS SES. It's built as a hosted service so theres no server costs, and you only pay for the emails you send out.

This looks great. The biggest pain we had with MailChimp was dealing with unsubscribes from our website (i.e. anything other than an unsubscribe link in the email). How does your API handle unsubscribes? Do you simply upload a complete list of users each time and those not in the file are removed?

From what I understand you need an API endpoint to unsubscribe users from your list.

Try out the service and drop me a line, I'm sure I can accommodate your use case :)

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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post #9

shameless plug I built SimplerSES for the same reason - a cheaper alternative to MailChimp using AWS SES. It's built as a hosted service so theres no server costs, and you only pay for the emails you send out.

This looks like a great value. We were considering using Campaign.js, but actually getting it up and running on a server to fire out campaigns seemed like a pain (as does using sendy). Combining the affordability of SES with some symbolance of the UX of mailchimp seems like a killer value proposition.

Thanks! I'm actively working on enhancing the feature set to match what MailChimp etc provide.

If you try it out and find something you need missing, drop me a line and I'll see what I can do!

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have 100,000 users (which we have), MailChimp is really expensive. Details: http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ Mailchimp is thus $475.00 per 100K per month ($5700 per year!) That is a lot to spend on just email. With Sendy + SES it costs me $10 to do a send to our 100,000 users. Now I could play around with switching plans all the time at MailChimp to try and always minimize my costs, but I don't want t…

Clearly it depends on your business and how you measure the value. I've worked for companies that spent over $5k/mo on Mailchimp and thought it quite worth it.

Right. How much is it to have someone on staff (or available for calling up in an emergency) who knows how to configure mail servers? Far more than 5k/month.
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