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Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Post by bhouston »

coderdude wrote: post #12
davekiss wrote: post #3

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Sendy uses Amazon SES as the delivery service, not a PHP installation. Highly deliverable and much more cost effective.

Amazon SES rocks from a pricing standpoint but deliverability isn't its strong suit. There are too many spammers using it. ISPs seem to barely trust mail sent from their servers and I get a lot of bounces. I stopped using it for critical email and rely on it only for bulk-type emails where missing that one email isn't the end of the world. MailChimp for newsletters and SendGrid for everything else. That's a winning c…

As a use of both SES, and MailChimp (as well as SendGrid for transactional) for https://Clara.io I find no difference between SES and MailChimp regarding delivery. It would be cool to see an objective study here. Otherwise it seems like FUD.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Post by jtreminio »

pixeloution wrote: post #20
timdorr wrote: post #15

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I find Mandrill, the backend service behind Mailchimp, a better option. They're much cheaper than SendGrid and even cheaper than SES in large quantities. And their deliverability is top notch.

Mandrill is not "the backend service behind MailChimp". Mandrill came after MailChimp and is a separate thing - they only allow it to be used for transactional email. Sending a newsletter via Mandrill violates its Terms of Service.

I just went through Mandrill's TOS [0] and didn't see anything referencing a ban on emailing lists.

From my understanding, and having used Mandrill for some time, it can be used for anything you want (that follows its double opt-in, no spam requirements).

[0] https://mandrill.com/terms/

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Post by robbiemitchell »

bhouston wrote: post #19
_neil wrote: post #8

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That's a bit over the top. Mail chimp is hugely valuable if you are in their target user base. And for non-technical clients, mail chimp is (imo) a massive step up from other mailing list providers.

If you have 100,000 users (which we have), MailChimp is really expensive. Details: http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ Mailchimp is thus $475.00 per 100K per month ($5700 per year!) That is a lot to spend on just email. With Sendy + SES it costs me $10 to do a send to our 100,000 users. Now I could play around with switching plans all the time at MailChimp to try and always minimize my costs, but I don't want t…

If I'm reading the FAQ correct, SES maxes out at 10k emails/day, meaning it'll take you 10 days to email your entire list.

Re: Create your own MailChimp clone for $5 a month with Sendy

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Post by cpncrunch »

bhouston wrote: post #21
coderdude wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon SES rocks from a pricing standpoint but deliverability isn't its strong suit. There are too many spammers using it. ISPs seem to barely trust mail sent from their servers and I get a lot of bounces. I stopped using it for critical email and rely on it only for bulk-type emails where missing that one email isn't the end of the world. MailChimp for newsletters and SendGrid for everything else. That's a winning c…

As a use of both SES, and MailChimp (as well as SendGrid for transactional) for https://Clara.io I find no difference between SES and MailChimp regarding delivery. It would be cool to see an objective study here. Otherwise it seems like FUD.

I don't use either, but I have to deal with spammers from both. The difference is that Mailchimp has a zero tolerance policy to abuse, whereas SES doesn't.
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