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Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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darklajid wrote: post #198
spike021 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last week I took Uber late at night one mile in a downtown area near where I live. It cost about $6 USD. Usually a beer is about $5-8 in that area. But I agree, it depends quite a bit on distance between where you are and your destination.

One mile? I'd argue you can walk that even (or especially? I tend to like that) if you're drunk. The GP probably talked about a somewhat bigger trip, maybe (sorry, miles isn't something that feels natural) on the order of 10-15+ km. Now, driving drunk is absolutely no excuse. But I do agree that the price of getting home by Cab-Or-Replacement-Service is probably not in the 'one more drink' range. A bus ticket though.…

Ugh, the thought of walking a mile (1.6km) while drunk is not pleasant at all. In fact, the thought of any physical exercise while drunk makes me want to vomit right now. The world just keeps tipping side to side... like a ship in rough waters... I'll take a cab, please.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by vidarh »

justincormack wrote: post #200
jordanthoms wrote: post #185

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My fantasy is to build a city with lots of roads, but put them underground. Street level can be solely for pedestrians, bikes, and vehicles delivering things on that block (although most buildings would have underground road access).

London tried to have a form of that, where pedestrians could go on raised walkways, while the cars owned the roads underneath. Fragments remain around the Barbican in the City of London, and you can see blocked off unfinished walkways. Underground roads are being suggested in many places as they free up land for buildings.

Toronto is a better example of separating cars and pedestrians, though it's underground rather than raised:

http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=f537...

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by justageek123 »

Let's not forget the responsibility of the bar that continued to serve the drunk coward. My friend found him on FB tagged in the bar just a couple of hours before the accident. His blood alcohol was 3 times the legal limit. I am told, one would be almost comatose and they let him leave.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by vidarh »

dhagz wrote: post #109
varelse wrote: post #85

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We've created a national infrastructure that IMO nearly requires driving to be a civil right. That sucks. But I really don't have an answer to this problem when proposals to address this are either voted down or end up ridiculously over budget.

Considering the sheer vastness of the continental US, it's not surprising to me that there haven't been many good plans to remove our dependence on cars. The only options, really, for good nation-wide transport are trains and planes. Trains have an incredibly expensive infrastructure, especially the high-speed trains needed to traverse the thousands of miles between the East and West coasts. Planes are slightly less…

Every time this comes up I reply the same:

The US "sheer vastness" is irrelevant. Most of the US population live in states with a population density higher than countries like Norway, which have good public transport (only 10 states, with an aggregate 12 million people, have a lower population density).

Nobody cares if "empty" areas in places like Alaska have poor public transport. You get 90% of the benefit if there's decent public transport in the higher density regions.

Most transport is not nation-wide, but short distance commutes anyway. Even places with very low population density tends to have some places where public transport is useful. It's not about eradicating car use, but to reduce the number of journeys for which they are required.

EDIT: And the US as a whole has a population density twice that of Norway.

EDIT: And before anyone brings up the oil: Most of Norways transit infrastructure predates the oil with a significant margin.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by freehunter »

gohrt wrote: post #176
lfam wrote: post #166

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As another motorcyclist, I want to give my support to this view. I have no desire to ride fast (I rather enjoy doing 40 mph on a park drive), but I need my bike to be able to go 100 mph so that when the person next to me going 55 mph starts to merge into my lane, I have the choice of slowing down or very rapidly accelerating out of danger. It's the same with cars. Having the "headroom" means you can speed up quickly…

You don't go more than ~70 to execute that maneuver. By the time you've accelerated to +15mph more than your obstacle, you aren't near it anymore.

Exactly. You need a bike that can accelerate quickly, not a bike that can do a massive top speed. Top speed has nothing to do with how quickly you can maneuver out of danger.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by lfam »

gohrt wrote: post #176
lfam wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another motorcyclist, I want to give my support to this view. I have no desire to ride fast (I rather enjoy doing 40 mph on a park drive), but I need my bike to be able to go 100 mph so that when the person next to me going 55 mph starts to merge into my lane, I have the choice of slowing down or very rapidly accelerating out of danger. It's the same with cars. Having the "headroom" means you can speed up quickly…

You don't go more than ~70 to execute that maneuver. By the time you've accelerated to +15mph more than your obstacle, you aren't near it anymore.

You're right, but the bike needs a max speed of something like 100 in order to hit 70 within a second or so. If 70 is the max, it will take forever to get there. Headroom. I never want to actually go 100, let alone 70.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by vidarh »

lfam wrote: post #206
gohrt wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't go more than ~70 to execute that maneuver. By the time you've accelerated to +15mph more than your obstacle, you aren't near it anymore.

You're right, but the bike needs a max speed of something like 100 in order to hit 70 within a second or so. If 70 is the max, it will take forever to get there. Headroom. I never want to actually go 100, let alone 70.

Which is presumably part of the reason why the person who started this expressed surprised at the lack of a governor to limit the top speed rather than surprise at the lack of restrictions on total engine power.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by darklajid »

justageek123 wrote: post #203

Let's not forget the responsibility of the bar that continued to serve the drunk coward. My friend found him on FB tagged in the bar just a couple of hours before the accident. His blood alcohol was 3 times the legal limit. I am told, one would be almost comatose and they let him leave.

The bar isn't responsible.

They don't need to make sure that people don't get drunk. They don't need to supervise people and ask them where they live and how the intend to get home.

There's zero responsibility from my pov. If he wrecked havoc in the bar, attacked people or whatnot, then they have a reason to throw him out. They can always refuse to serve him the xth drink, but that's not responsible, that's mostly "making sure that people don't vomit all over the place".

The single responsibility for drunk drivers lies with the drunk driver. Not the bar, the system, society in general or whatever. Cars are not the problem either. It was one person's act.

(Too harsh? I lost my license for the better part of a year about a decade ago - for crashing my car on the Autobahn returning drunk from a party. Cannot recommend that, it was a highly expensive - in monetary terms, at that time - but luckily otherwise harmless, mightily effective lesson. So when I say that this person was an idiot I state that from the position of having been that sort of idiot in the past)

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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Post by yebyen »

namuol wrote: post #11

Fuck. I feel shocked ... sick. I don't know what to say. I went to RIT with Mike. He was a seriously passionate developer and very clearly destined for great things. Finding out about this here makes me wish I had stayed in touch. This is unreal, and makes zero sense. Too many emotions that I don't know what to do with, so I'll end my comment there. Just hope the rest of his family and friends are doing okay. RIP, Mi…

I remember Mike. I went to RIT too. We weren't friends but he was friends with a lot of my friends. This is a shock.

Re: Mike Ey, Microsoft HoloLens designer, killed in hit and run

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justageek123 wrote: post #203

Let's not forget the responsibility of the bar that continued to serve the drunk coward. My friend found him on FB tagged in the bar just a couple of hours before the accident. His blood alcohol was 3 times the legal limit. I am told, one would be almost comatose and they let him leave.

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