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Jon Ronson: How a Tweet Can Ruin Your Life

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Re: Jon Ronson: How a Tweet Can Ruin Your Life

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Post by chrisdotcode »

andrea_s wrote: post #29

““Maybe it was [Hank] who started all of this,” Adria told me in the cafe at San Francisco Airport. “No one would have known he got fired until he complained. Maybe he’s to blame for complaining that he got fired. Maybe he secretly seeded the hate groups. Right?” This paragraph really gave me chills... A lot of insight about her thought process, and a bit terrifying in my opinion.

This needs to be the top comment. Can you imagine a person who claims their fight-or-flight response gets triggered by sexual jokes (jokes that were actually more homosexual in content than degrading towards women), but then actually has no empathy for people outside of themselves whatsoever?

People like this deserve no platforms of power whatsoever.

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Post by smcl »

adekok wrote: post #70
throwawayaway wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With enough money in the fired party's bank account, it would be. I think the only difference between Europe and the US in this regard is the amount of money required to get justice.

Having worked in Europe and seen the process at work, lawyers are cheap. Employees sue and succeed in their suits for surprisingly simple things. Europeans take employee protection very seriously.

I think what throwawayaway was saying was that if a company wants to lay you off in a way that contravenes some employee protection laws they'll first offer you a sum of money on condition that it doesn't go to court (more than the amount they legally have to).

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Post by pfortuny »

throwawayaway wrote: post #49
oracle2025 wrote: post #47

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sounds like a major difference, if a labour law only protects rich people, it is not really in the spirit of an actual "labour law" https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u...

my point is rather badly explained, i mean to say that you need quite a lot of money on either continent to fight these type of battles.

Not at all, in Europe this kind of justice is accessible to most people (and most likely you will win the costs as well). OK, I am speaking for Spain but I guess it is the same thing in all of the EU.

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Post by dagw »

throwawayaway wrote: post #74
adekok wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having worked in Europe and seen the process at work, lawyers are cheap. Employees sue and succeed in their suits for surprisingly simple things. Europeans take employee protection very seriously.

so we agree, it's cheaper in europe to get justice, but not free.

If you're a member of some sort of union (and many more people are) then they'll often provide you with a legal team for free if they believe your case is 'worthy'.

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Post by gambiting »

pluma wrote: post #72
throwawayaway wrote: post #24

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With enough money in the fired party's bank account, it would be. I think the only difference between Europe and the US in this regard is the amount of money required to get justice.

I don't think tech workers in the EU would find it prohibitively expensive to take an employer to court, though. Plus, legal insurance is pretty affordable at this income bracket.

I pay 22 pounds(~$28)/month for my home insurance and it also provides up to half a million pounds for legal costs in case I wanted to sue my employer on the grounds of unfair dismissal. In general, I wouldn't think twice about going to court about anything, most things you can do without a lawyer or with a court-appointed one.
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