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Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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Probably one of the most promising ideas that has lost much of its meaning....We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Do you really believe that? Are you really so blind to all the progress since 1788?

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS! I sort of feel like the internet is as close as we get to it now, with Twitter and other microblogging services bringing us a step closer. But really, I want full-on instant telepathic communication with anyone. Cell phones don't cut it. Gone would be the days of humming a tune in your head, whose name you do not know, only to realize you cannot emulate those noises with your mouth. Good luc…

How is math not intuitive? Where is it needlessly complex? How is math not already "naturally recursive"? (What does that mean?) How is the universe naturally recursive? What does it mean to "build math off itself"? Are we not doing that already? I think you are complaining about math and then proposing that we build math back up exactly as it is now.

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS! I sort of feel like the internet is as close as we get to it now, with Twitter and other microblogging services bringing us a step closer. But really, I want full-on instant telepathic communication with anyone. Cell phones don't cut it. Gone would be the days of humming a tune in your head, whose name you do not know, only to realize you cannot emulate those noises with your mouth. Good luc…

About collective consciousness,something like the WebBot[1] project uses it fairly well.I hear it uses the collective consciousness to predict The FUTURE

[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Bot

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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Bandwidth as a constitutional right in addition to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not guaranteed anywhere in the Constitution. Those three are a rhetorical flourish in the Declaration of Independence, and do not create enforceable legal rights for Americans. The Constitution guarantees enforceable negative rights, for example, it forbids the government from killing (or otherwise punishing) you without due process of law.

The Constitution, by design, doesn't establish positive rights. An example of a positive right is "You have the right to an education."

Positive rights suffer from implementation issues, expanding government creep as pressure groups suffer rights-envy, and the generic problems associated with state-provided services.

An example of an implementation issue: the Japanese Constitution guarantees that "All people shall have the right to receive an equal education correspondent to their ability, as provided for by law." This has been interpreted as making it unconstitutional to remove students from mainstream classrooms, regardless of behavioral disability or a distressing propensity to stab teachers in the neck.

An example of rights-envy: Once you have one positive right, every pressure group under the sun will want their own mandate. The argument will sound something like this: "The constitution guarantees bandwidth, food to eat is a lot more important than bandwidth, the constitution should guarantee food, too." Other favorites for expansion are health care, education, and sexual services. (Oh, Europe, what a continent.)

The American political consensus is that positive rights are not desirable at the federal constitutional level.

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

#17

Probably one of the most promising ideas that has lost much of its meaning....We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"insure" domestic "Tranquility"?

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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Bandwidth as a constitutional right in addition to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not guaranteed anywhere in the Constitution. Those three are a rhetorical flourish in the Declaration of Independence, and do not create enforceable legal rights for Americans. The Constitution guarantees enforceable negative rights, for example, it forbids the government from killing (or otherwise punishing) you without due process of law. The Constitution, by design,…

Nice comment; though, I think the OP was just comedically endorsing Net Neutrality, which, iirc, asserts a negative right.

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS! I sort of feel like the internet is as close as we get to it now, with Twitter and other microblogging services bringing us a step closer. But really, I want full-on instant telepathic communication with anyone. Cell phones don't cut it. Gone would be the days of humming a tune in your head, whose name you do not know, only to realize you cannot emulate those noises with your mouth. Good luc…

How is math not intuitive? Where is it needlessly complex? How is math not already "naturally recursive"? (What does that mean?) How is the universe naturally recursive? What does it mean to "build math off itself"? Are we not doing that already? I think you are complaining about math and then proposing that we build math back up exactly as it is now.

Math isn't NOT intuitive as far as math itself goes. It happens to be a very nice language. I tend to think that relativity and quantum mechanics do not mesh well because of the language we use to describe them. While standard maths is NP complete, it does not seem to inherently describe the universe without getting all crazy complex. I encourage you to try and comprehend even some of the simplest M-Theory equations. (not saying I do, but if math was really the language of the universe m-theory equations would be quite simple).

You know how in science and math people describe certain things as 'elegant' ? For example, E=mc^2 is very elegant. If math were elegant, you could get from here (higgs bosons) to there (atoms) with a simple equation which has been recursed x times to produce a mathematical model of an atom.

Math isn't bad, it's quite useful in fact. It's just not the natural language of the universe like everyone thinks it is.

Re: Ask HN: Which idea irritates you because it has not been taken far enough?

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there's not enough going on with 10 Foot Interface advancements. Boxee and XBMC rock, but a lot is happening and about to happen in this space. What's possible today was not possible 18 months ago whether it be hardware OR software. Boxee already has 600k users and that's with their alpha. I'd love to see hayzap or a casual games developer launch something on their platform. With that said, seeing more sites have a "10 foot interface" alternative, just like they have a gui for mobile devices would be great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface

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