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Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#11

IANAL and I am scared by licenses I don't recognize. I pretty much bail as soon as I see the words "all rights reserved" regardless of what comes after it. That said, this license is extremely short and for a tool that is clearly intended to be distributed. Is this essentially a CC attribution license? If so, why not just use that? https://github.com/Selz/plyr/blob/master/license.md

It's just a standard BSD 3-clause license, see: http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#12

IANAL and I am scared by licenses I don't recognize. I pretty much bail as soon as I see the words "all rights reserved" regardless of what comes after it. That said, this license is extremely short and for a tool that is clearly intended to be distributed. Is this essentially a CC attribution license? If so, why not just use that? https://github.com/Selz/plyr/blob/master/license.md

It's just a standard BSD 3-clause license, see: http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause

... which he says at the bottom of the page. I'll leave the monument to my ignorance above, in case it helps someone else.

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#15

IANAL and I am scared by licenses I don't recognize. I pretty much bail as soon as I see the words "all rights reserved" regardless of what comes after it. That said, this license is extremely short and for a tool that is clearly intended to be distributed. Is this essentially a CC attribution license? If so, why not just use that? https://github.com/Selz/plyr/blob/master/license.md

Moreover, they don't really adhere to their own license: http://cdn.plyr.io/1.0.19/plyr.js doesn't reproduce the copyright notice despite being a redistribution in binary (or source???) form. If you just copy&paste that file into your own project you are in violation of their license.

On the upside, likely nobody cares. I doubt anybody has ever been sued over violating the BSD license.

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

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post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, my first thought too. Though presumably different roots - player and pliers. There's also another stringr (crowdsourced video content platform) and caret (text editing for Chrome).

Now dplyr has pretty much replaced it with better syntax and perf. Take a look at it. https://github.com/hadley/dplyr

One thing I've been curious about with R:

Why is it that popular libraries in R are replaced with other names when enhanced? I.e., plyr->dplyr, reshape->reshape2, etc.? Is it a namespacing thing? I guess if there's not a universally accepted way of versioning library imports that would explain it as well.

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#17
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now dplyr has pretty much replaced it with better syntax and perf. Take a look at it. https://github.com/hadley/dplyr

One thing I've been curious about with R: Why is it that popular libraries in R are replaced with other names when enhanced? I.e., plyr->dplyr, reshape->reshape2, etc.? Is it a namespacing thing? I guess if there's not a universally accepted way of versioning library imports that would explain it as well.

plyr does more than dplyr (I perfer dplyr)

reshape does more than reshape2 which does more than tidyr

They actually get more refined and are different creatures with similar features and not different versions.

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#18

IANAL and I am scared by licenses I don't recognize. I pretty much bail as soon as I see the words "all rights reserved" regardless of what comes after it. That said, this license is extremely short and for a tool that is clearly intended to be distributed. Is this essentially a CC attribution license? If so, why not just use that? https://github.com/Selz/plyr/blob/master/license.md

I've always assumed "All rights reserved" was just a redundant part of the copyright declaration (it's already copyrighted, what else can you possibly reserve without e.g. trademark or patent law etc?), and that the explicit copyright license that usually follows and grants exceptions to the copyright is all that matters.

I hadn't thought about it much until now though, perhaps that assumption is wrong in some jurisdictions.

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#19
The captions button isn't modal, it doesn't indicate if captions are on or off.

Accessibility-wise this isn't very good. Heck, even from a usability standpoint: no tooltips if I don't understand a button? Why? Those circular arrows might mean repeat (do they?), but all I know is clicking them restarts the music. If I hover, I'm not told what it should be doing. There aren't even alt= attributes or titles somewhere for screen readers... except for a useless aria-label ("undefined, Video demo").

Re: Plyr – A simple HTML5 media player

#20
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AS someone that programs in R plyr is a major library for manipulating languages. It is one of the most popular libraries in use for R. https://github.com/hadley/plyr

You'd think that someone choosing a name for a new technology product would do a single google search first, yet time and time again we end up with these collisions. There should be a central repository mapping names to services that we can use to look up potential names.
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