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"their customers were happy" The people who got a reservation, maybe, but what about the people who didn't get one? Maybe a good business idea would be to sell kidneys that one steals from traveling students. I am sure the customers would be happy, too.
I'm assuming, based on the teacher's description (which involved "those little buzzers" and the concept of "trading one buzzer for another"), that these "reservations" they were selling were in fact "places in line". [1] If you built a business around selling reservations at a reservation-only restaurant, where the typical reservation was made days in advance and they were handed out in fixed quantity, I would have m…
If you had 5 dollars and 2 hours, how would you make as much money as possible?
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#183Eh, these all seem to violate the rules. They have time to make money from 2 hours after they open the envelope. If you make your money outside of that time, how is it supposed to count towards the money that you made for the project? Why couldn't they just never open the envelope and work 9-5 jobs for a couple weeks? Then say 'HAH! see! we made 2,000 bucks each!'
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Okay, first of all, you should apologise to mechanical_fish. Ad hominem attacks are not cool. I agree it's a bit shady to sell reservations, and I would be uncomfortable to play any role in this (person in line, person buying, student selling, or restaurant employee), but how is it "dishonest"? That implies deception, and I see none. Selling reservations definitely violates the egalitarian "first-come, first-served"…
I owe him no such thing, nor did I attack him. I spoke of my own state of mind, that his comment made me think he was dishonest; I did not say that he was. Omitting the truth is just as dishonest as lying. You don't try and parse technicalities with honesty, either you were acting in good faith or you weren't, not telling the restaurant that you intend to sell the reservations - something certainly outside their expe…
Saying things like that makes me think you're a sophist.
See?
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#185She published a book called "what I wish I knew when I was 20". If you like the story, you'd probably enjoy the book as well (the $5 funding story is in there). It's a good motivation recharger for those entrepreneurs in the thick of it - get's you pumped up to innovate. Also, might make you want to go to the d-school at Standford because a number of stories are based on her class there. http://tinyurl.com/yzj5hlj *t…
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What if it was counted because the teacher thought making the deal was where they made the money, not in the classroom. They made their money in the 2 hours, but delivered their service afterwards, which doesn't contradict her guideline.
So, the income can be counted before obligations are resolved? Tradesmen can "earn" large amounts of money in short periods of time under this definition, as they're often paid half up-front to fund materials, but they still need to do work in order to "earn" that money.
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"she hands out two artificial constraints" But that's very important. People are constantly working under ... and handing out ... artificial constraints. Getting outside the box is one of the most important lessons. Who could possibly want to communicate but be limited to only 140 characters? The US spent a million dollars to develop a pen that could write in no-gravity. The Russians used a pencil. "In the province o…
Not using the $5 at all thinking outside the box is. You break a rule that thought existed before you thought about it. It is a constraint on your mind, not your world. This is a space pencil. Using $10 instead of $5 is not thinking outside the box.
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There are two levels --- the first is within the context of a class assignment, and the second is as a business operation. 1) The bike tire pressure check isn't bad, but seems to be cheating on the class solution by using outside materials. Once one can 'presume' a pressure gauge and a pump, why not presume further specialized equipment or further outside funding? As a business proposition I was happy with it when th…
My simple view would be that if the restaurant would change their system if you told them what you plan to do, it is immoral. Well, that moral principle is not going to generalize well. But let's resist the urge to play moral philosopher and consider the facts: Would the restaurants want to stop you from doing this? I don't think it's obvious. If I pick up half a dozen extra reservations and then try to sell them, I…
If the restaurant is all booked up, they turn people away. If some of those reservations are held by scalpers, and the scalpers don't find a buyer, the table will be empty when it may have been used if not for the actions of the scalpers.
What the students did was to break this unenforceable contract, and convert an agreement to make a transaction at some point in the future into a pure option on their part. That's stealing value.
If the restaurants want to do this, that's one thing. If the restaurant attempts to cultivate an image of being the hip spot to be seen, then it's in their interest to seat anyone dressed nice, or has money to throw around, or whatever, preferentially. But I would expect that they take this factor into account when setting the wages of the maitre d, just as they account for tips when setting the waiters' wages. Thus, the restaurant captures the value.
If this became prevalent, I would expected restaurants to move back to a model of calling names, or asking the name as if they can't tell from what number buzzer you had. Psychologically, buying a buzzer would seem okay to a lot of people who would not be comfortable if what you were selling is "listen for Charlie, party of 4, and say you're Charlie".
All the above applies equally to buzzers or waiting in an physical queue. If the queue is visibly large or if the host says it's a 45 minute wait rather than a 20 minute wait, some patrons will go elsewhere.
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She teaches a class at Stanford and offers each team $5 of 'funding' in an envelope. She tells them that once they open the envelope, they have 2 hours to make as much money as they can. She cites three teams' approaches: 1) First team opens a free stand that offers to check peoples bike tire pressure for free, then charges $1 to inflate if necessary. This team changes midstream to accepting donations instead of char…
See, the problem here is that she hands out two artificial constraints, and then praises the teams who ignore the constraints. 1. Used a device to measure the tire pressure and materials to build the booth and signs. Did they cost less than $5? Maybe. Did it take less than 2 hours to create the booth, the signs, and perform the services? Unlikely. 2. Well done on finding something you can acquire for free and then se…
The problem was not 'you are given X amount of seed money and two hours to make as much money as possible; however, you must use, and only use, that money while buying the materials you are going to require.'
The problem was not designed to make students money but to show them that there are lots of possibilities in the world for success with hard entrepreneurial thought (they were given four days to think of a plan).
I can be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the rules did not even matter (in the strictest sense). They could spend six dollars on buying signs and a bike pump to make their project a success because the goal of the "problem" was to open the minds of the young entrepreneurs.
If each person did not come up with a brilliant idea, then there would be no harm. However, in mind of the problem, the students were supposed to hear what the other students did to achieve success because the path to achievement is the path to success. -> And that is why people take the class. They want to discover the path to success.
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Your argument seems to lean a bit too strongly on unsupported accusations of fraud: Did it take less than 2 hours to create the booth, the signs, and perform the services? Unlikely. What, you're saying that a team of college students, on a college campus , which presumably has a fully stocked stationery store within five minutes' walk, can't throw up some hand-scrawled signs in less than (say) 15 minutes for under fi…
"And I don't seem to recall anything in the "constraints" about not being allowed to beg or borrow anything, nor any rules about not being allowed to use stuff you already own." What if "stuff you already own" includes a bank account with 2 million bucks in it? I also thought the solution was a bit dishonest, but then the whole thing should not be taken that serious from the start. The reservations solution seems eve…
It doesn't take much to see that 2 team-hours is a much bigger asset than the $5, so you're better searching for the best way to use 2 hours, and maybe even ignoring the money.
It took a bit more insight to realize that hard to tap advertising space(and other opportuities) in a university town is a much bigger asset than the team-hours and the money.