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Beware the Pretty People

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Re: Beware the Pretty People

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Funny how the nerd stereotype is used in different contexts. In the context of diversity in tech, nerds are a subculture dominated by White males. This culture has a misogynistic dark side, and it is important to show that you don't have to conform to this subculture to succeed in tech. However, in the context of the corporatization of tech, suddenly the nerds are the good guys. And funnily enough, nerd culture was a…

There is an important thread connecting the two: In the context of diversity in tech, nerds are a subculture dominated by White males. This culture has a misogynistic dark side... This is a popular and powerful attack line used by "pretty people" seeking power in tech. It's used to demonize the old guard. When the old guard tries to intellectually dispute it, as is their custom, one can then attack their person direc…

But the people making these attacks are mostly actual feminists, liberals and diversity advocates. They are not business people or MBAs.

Maybe the MBAs jump on the bandwagon, but I think they mostly do it to pick the winning side, not because they fear the latent power of nerds.

That said, I think you've very accurately described the various attacks on traditional nerd/Silicon Valley culture that are occurring.

Re: Beware the Pretty People

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LOL What an article. "Now that the tech industry is cool, the pretty people are taking over, flooding out of top-tier universities with MBAs and social graces and carefully coiffed hair, shouldering the misfits and weirdos out of the way." Good luck with that :) Don't judge the book by its cover! "While we do, though, we need the weirdos, the rebels, the counterculture, to be gathering together and founding companies…

conflating ugliness with being counterculture lol

Re: Beware the Pretty People

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It's funny, this article seems to be rather full of irony. At the beginning of the article, I started miss when a lot of the tech scene was a little more grass roots, but maybe that's just rose colored glasses. Obviously, things have gotten more sophisticated since the days of simple computers like the TRS-80 and while it's not possible to totally grep everything in a modern OS, I do miss some of the hacker ethos that may have waned when the web went big. That being said, I find it a rather perverse juxtaposition to take about governments and Wall Street abusing the tech industry and then hold up he examples of Uber and bitcoin as movements counter to this. While there may have been some inefficiency in the Taxi medallion system, Uber seems to thrive on skirting labor laws and relying on the perhaps misplaced hype surround the "gig economy." Bitcoin is also not a terribly appropriate choice; while the idea of the blockchain is novel, the technology is kind of wasteful (all of energy required to move the blockchain along, probably coming from non-renewables), it's built on arguably shaky financial grounds (nothing like a sovereign to back it, it's often theorized to be a Ponzi scheme), and Wall Street is getting into it big time. Both of these seem to be part of the "pop tech" the author is rallying against.

I would rather see kids encouraged to hack all things (not just web sites and walled garden mobile app) to keep the old school tech culture alive, and I certainly feel the need to make sure things like GNU continue, as it, amongst other things, have provided the means to rally against big corporations controlling access to the interesting bits of technology (like being priced out) back in the day. I personally feel as though copyleft is important from this perspective, though this is probably a somewhat controversial opinion. One thing the author doesn't mention as something we should focus on, is if we want to keep the tech industry from locking us out of technology as we know it, I think we should also work to make sure tech giants and other corporations don't strong arm standards organizations and force development into walled non-free gardens, especially like with Google and Apple's threatening moves with regards to the internet (i.e. iOS locking out competing browsers, Google trying to completely lock out others from gTLDs like .dev).

EDIT: Just to be clear, I also find the equating of "pretty people" and the use of "nerd" around a lot of the culture surrounding technology both click-baity and ad hominem.

Re: Beware the Pretty People

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I don't actually hold this opinion, because I don't know the truth of it, but I remember reading a comment about women in tech that entertained the idea of why there isn't many women in tech. The opinion was that women are more socially aware than men. CS/tech with its mainstream stereotypes of nerds wasn't something that most women wanted to be associated with. If I entertained the thought put forth by this TC article, I can perhaps predict an influx of women in CS/tech due to it becoming more "socially acceptable", because of the changing stereotypes.

An oversimplification, but entertaining nonetheless.

Re: Beware the Pretty People

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post #4

LOL What an article. "Now that the tech industry is cool, the pretty people are taking over, flooding out of top-tier universities with MBAs and social graces and carefully coiffed hair, shouldering the misfits and weirdos out of the way." Good luck with that :) Don't judge the book by its cover! "While we do, though, we need the weirdos, the rebels, the counterculture, to be gathering together and founding companies…

I'm not sure what techcrunch truly brings us, but I'm not worried about the "pretty people" crowding out the computer science, engineer, math and science majors. There are too many qualities that can't be faked and no amount of hair gel will compensate. It will always be easy to find someone who has paid the price over someone who just bought the clothes.

Re: Beware the Pretty People

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The headline didn't match the rant.

My first thought, reading that, was of Shai Agassi, the founder of Better Place, the battery-swap electric car company. Years ago I went to a meeting in SF where he spoke, and saw that that he was very good looking, spoke very well, and had a business plan that was total bullshit. Several heads of state and many investors were convinced by him. In the end, he burned through about $800 million and only put about a few hundred cars, built by Renault, on the road, before the bankruptcy.

That's what I was thinking when I read the title.

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