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Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That vulnerability only applies to HVM guests. No doubt there are other reasons to have rebooted since 2013, but if one of Rackspace's servers only has paravirtualized guests (do they use HVM at all? I don't know), they can get by without patching it.

rackspace most likely uses hvm guests. I think they had freebsd before there was xen pv support

Rackspace has both HV and PV for most default linux images

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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post #33

Why do the major Xen providers get advance access to the patches while my machines have to sit vulnerable for over a week?

Presumably because making the patch public also makes the vulnerability public and they want to give the big players time to protect their customers.

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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post #33

Why do the major Xen providers get advance access to the patches while my machines have to sit vulnerable for over a week?

This is explained in the Xen security policy, from the 'Embargo and disclosure schedule' heading.

http://www.xenproject.org/security-policy.html

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good thing the host you run Docker on never needs to be patched or rebooted I guess?

Yes, docker is immune to vulnerabilities because containers.

What a bright, shiny future we live in where "Docker!" is the answer to all problems.

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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post #33

Why do the major Xen providers get advance access to the patches while my machines have to sit vulnerable for over a week?

Because responsible adults have demonstrated their ability to follow a coordinated disclosure policy which lets them improve their own security without harming anyone else's.

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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This is why SEL4 is awesome. http://ssrg.nicta.com.au/projects/seL4/

First kernel with certain security guarantees formally proven; now open source. It can be used as a hypervisor which seems like its most obvious first use case. At least until there is enough middle-ware to build full systems directly with it.

Re: Five new undisclosed Xen vulnerabilities

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Xen's hypervisor would seem to be a great place to implement live patching like KSplice/kGraft/Kpatch does for the Linux kernel. Presumably that stuff still works on KVM host machines with live guests.

Amazon's security advisory seems to indicate that they have this capability for 90% of EC2 instances (leaving 10% that must be rebooted). https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/maintenance-2015-03/
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