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They can't. They said in a court of law that IE can't be separated from Windows.
Spartan isn't IE.
The birth of Microsoft's new web rendering engine
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Honestly, with as much OSS as they've been putting out there recently, I wouldn't be surprised to see this browser go that route too. Maybe.
They can't. They said in a court of law that IE can't be separated from Windows.
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#53YES! 1-2-3-4, I declare a browser war! Finally. This is the Microsoft I've been waiting for! No more rolling over and no defeatist talk of adopting WebKit or whatever. Microsoft is going to use its muscle and position to make a truly competitive browser. We need more competition, and we need the default browser in Windows to be just as good as Chrome and Firefox. Microsoft, I hope you pull every -ms- vendor flaggin',…
I should be able to type `-beta-mask-image: url()` and any browser that implements that version of the spec can pick it up. There's no good reason to have to type the same exact thing 3 times to target each browser engine.
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We have a already have lot of competition. In fact, it's never been better: Chrome, Firefox, WebKit, Chromium, Opera. You can even get the source code for Firefox and Chrome and contribute. I'm glad Microsoft is making a better go at it, but honestly, Microsoft could have built a more compliant browser any time they wanted too. https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html
We got the Gecko family of browsers, the Trident family of browsers, and the WebKit family of browsers. Sure, there are varying JS engines, and Blink and Servo are on the way, but WebKit is the 900lbs gorilla. It is a monoculture in a lot of ways. I use and promote Firefox because I want to check the other vendors. Microsoft makes, hm, how can I be positive here ... patchy software. There are always lots of rough pat…
http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpri...
Unfortunately, they have no mobile market share, and this is where most people will be browsing the web.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/02/24/ios-android-duopoly-marketshar...
Re: The birth of Microsoft's new web rendering engine
#56It doesn't matter unless they make it open-source or at the very least cross-platform. I'm not downloading a 4GB VM from http://modern.ie to try it.
And I am not buying a Mac to try out Safari.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, with as much OSS as they've been putting out there recently, I wouldn't be surprised to see this browser go that route too. Maybe.
They can't. They said in a court of law that IE can't be separated from Windows.
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They aren't targeting specific sites that are broken they are targeting more general patterns that seem to cause problems.
I understand the language. I don't understand what they mean by "patterns". Common edge cases where js/css/html is broken in specific ways? If you write html/css in a relatively compliant way, things will not be so broken that a browser vendor needs to account for them in a "long tail". If your js is broken, well tough luck. Are they just talking about how to implicitly handle commonly malformed HTML, as all browsers…
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#60YES! 1-2-3-4, I declare a browser war! Finally. This is the Microsoft I've been waiting for! No more rolling over and no defeatist talk of adopting WebKit or whatever. Microsoft is going to use its muscle and position to make a truly competitive browser. We need more competition, and we need the default browser in Windows to be just as good as Chrome and Firefox. Microsoft, I hope you pull every -ms- vendor flaggin',…
Isn't this the line with each and every release of IE? Why is this different? Each prior version of IE was proclaimed some revolution of some sort.
EDIT: Downvotes? Really? I see the front page is starting to get curiously Microsoft heavy again.
We've heard the "this time it's different" argument with IE7, IE8, IE9, IE10, and now IE11. Each time some shill would declare "finally! This changes everything! Microsoft has the resources and know-how to beat everyone" And the world moved on.