"China drops leading NSA partners for state purchases" might be a better title
Yep. Much like how senators will vent masses of hot air about chinese brands. Same old same old.
China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
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Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#12Can't blame them, really.
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#13It could be that the Chinese government has legitimate security concerns - or it could be a convenient excuse to exercise some protectionism using an illegitimate excuse.
Either way, pressure on US companies to not blindly fall in step behind the US government is a good thing.
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#14Get used to it. Watch Germany do the same in the future too.
Unlike China, Germany is under the thumb of the U.S. Their state prosecutor won't even start an investigation into the tapping of Merkel's phone because 'there isn't sufficient evidence'. Never mind that the U.S. gov't admitted to it.
I don't think Germany or any other E.U. countries will follow.
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#15Get used to it. Watch Germany do the same in the future too.
Unlike China, Germany is under the thumb of the U.S. Their state prosecutor won't even start an investigation into the tapping of Merkel's phone because 'there isn't sufficient evidence'. Never mind that the U.S. gov't admitted to it. I don't think Germany or any other E.U. countries will follow.
Germany is not "under the thumb" of the U.S as much as you seem to think. Just look at Ukraine or all the anti Google action that reeks of protectionism. There are simply too many rational arguments against starting a trade war over NSA rigged electronics.
Neither Germany nor Europe as a whole makes enough electronics equipment to replace everything that may have been rigged by the NSA or other nations' spy agencies. The NSA does not restrict itself to equipment clearly marked as "made in USA" either.
We cannot solve this problem by rolling back globalisation and division of labor, aiming for national self-sufficiency.
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#16It could be that the Chinese government has legitimate security concerns - or it could be a convenient excuse to exercise some protectionism using an illegitimate excuse. Either way, pressure on US companies to not blindly fall in step behind the US government is a good thing.
Even if it's the second, it's still a failure of the US government because of NSA's overreach, which has given the Chinese or Russian governments the excuse to do this.
It's basically the same argument civil liberties activists have for when a "freedom" country like US starts torturing people or censoring information. Doing that gives other much worse states the excuse to do it freely as well. If US then comes out and says "hey, you're such an awful government for torturing your people and whatnot", they will respond: "oh yeah? Right back at ya, buddy! Now will you get off your high horse?!"
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-us-senate-torture-report-americ...
That said, NSA spying is very much a national security issue. Why would you allow other countries to spy on you, hack you, and steal your secrets? I think it's natural to want to take any actions you can against that. It's actually disappointing that only "rival" countries such as China and Russia are taking measures against it. All the European countries should be doing it as well, especially since US doesn't seem to make any difference between China or say Germany.
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#17No Windows. How cool wouldn't it be if there was a single place on earth where they didn't have a monopoly on OSes for generic x86?
It's the reason why Microsoft has always turned a blind eye to the extreme Windows piracy in China. If the Chinese couldn't pirate it (somehow), then Windows would have a much smaller market share, perhaps of 50 or 60 percent. And Linux would have a thriving ecosystem of programs. The lack of that is why Windows has such a strong lock-in now.
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#18It could be that the Chinese government has legitimate security concerns - or it could be a convenient excuse to exercise some protectionism using an illegitimate excuse. Either way, pressure on US companies to not blindly fall in step behind the US government is a good thing.
Even if it's the second, it's still a failure of the US government because of NSA's overreach, which has given the Chinese or Russian governments the excuse to do this. It's basically the same argument civil liberties activists have for when a "freedom" country like US starts torturing people or censoring information. Doing that gives other much worse states the excuse to do it freely as well. If US then comes out an…
I'm not arguing with you (my second paragraph says as much).
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#19It could be that the Chinese government has legitimate security concerns - or it could be a convenient excuse to exercise some protectionism using an illegitimate excuse. Either way, pressure on US companies to not blindly fall in step behind the US government is a good thing.
Why not both?
Re: China drops leading technology brands for state purchases
#20This should give European tech companies a chance to get back in the game.