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Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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It's a shame that the "readable" mode has #333 body text instead of #000.

#000 needs to be used tastefully, otherwise it can be visually overbearing.

Do you find this page visually overbearing because all of the non-downvoted comments are #000? I have never seen a page of text on a computer screen look overbearing because its color was #000 and not lighter.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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http://ianstormtaylor.com/design-tip-never-use-black/

That is poor advice which doesn't account for the difference between computer screens and ink on paper. The deepest black you can get on a monitor will not be as dark as certain inks on a page.

I'd argue that it does account for that difference, just not in an immediately obvious way. Screen displays are an additive color model and print is a subtractive one; screens shine light at you, paper has light shined on it. This makes for a very different perceptual feel; (completely) black ink on white paper is way less "contrasty" than #000 text on an #FFF background. WCAG accessibility guidelines suggest a minimum contrast ratio of 7:1 luminosity -- #000 on #FFF is a 21:1 contrast ratio!

In practice, I think we'd be better off darkening the background a little and lightening the foreground just a touch; #333 text on #F8F8F8 background still "feels" like black and white, but (assuming you've chosen a reasonable text size) it'll be a lot easier to read if you're dealing with long-form text.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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That is poor advice which doesn't account for the difference between computer screens and ink on paper. The deepest black you can get on a monitor will not be as dark as certain inks on a page.

I'd argue that it does account for that difference, just not in an immediately obvious way. Screen displays are an additive color model and print is a subtractive one; screens shine light at you, paper has light shined on it. This makes for a very different perceptual feel; (completely) black ink on white paper is way less "contrasty" than #000 text on an #FFF background. WCAG accessibility guidelines suggest a minim…

I find it difficult to believe that the relative difference between #F8F8F8 and #FFFFFF matters at all relative to the the widely varying screen brightness settings on everyone's very different computers, tablets and phones in very different lighting conditions.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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post #228

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#000 needs to be used tastefully, otherwise it can be visually overbearing.

Do you find this page visually overbearing because all of the non-downvoted comments are #000? I have never seen a page of text on a computer screen look overbearing because its color was #000 and not lighter.

What stands out more? The comments, or the names of those who comment?

Experiment, write this css into your dev tools:

    body * {
      color: #000 !important;
    }

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Semi-OT: is anyone on HN using a "alternative" Browser such as Midori or Vivaldi on a daily basis? I love what Midori is doing but it still crashes on me to often.

I use Conkeror http://conkeror.org/ .

Me too! The "f" command is sweet bliss for keyboarders.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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I have a crash probably every day. Usual culprit is Flash.

That's weird, since Flash runs on its own process (plugin-container). Is it actually crashing the whole browser?

It locks up the entire browser so I have to force kill it. I'm on Windows 7.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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It's a shame that the "readable" mode has #333 body text instead of #000.

http://ianstormtaylor.com/design-tip-never-use-black/

It's (generally) bad 'design' to fill areas with black, sure- but #000 outlines and text is just getting proper use of the limited dynamic range we're provided with.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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post #228

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#000 needs to be used tastefully, otherwise it can be visually overbearing.

Do you find this page visually overbearing because all of the non-downvoted comments are #000? I have never seen a page of text on a computer screen look overbearing because its color was #000 and not lighter.

No, but I probably would if the background were white.
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