Firefox 36.0 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by mbrubeck » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:34 PM UTC

blinkingled wrote: post #9

mcdoug wrote: post #3

Wow this is a big release! HTTP 2.0, phasing out 1024 certs, sync, will-change. BTW, is there already support for 4096 certs? Or is that coming later?

Yeah, the full HTTP/2 support was a pleasant surprise! Wonder if Google's (and other prominent ones) web properties have switched over to HTTP/2 from SPDY yet.

Yes. According to Patrick McManus (owner of Gecko's networking stack), 9% of Firefox requests are already using HTTP/2 with the draft implementation enabled for Google (and now Twitter). With Google alone, HTTP/2 usage is already higher than SPDY.

http://bitsup.blogspot.com/2015/02/http2-is-live-in-firefox....

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by tete » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:34 PM UTC

Great release, but not so happy about HTTP/2 being used by people now. I mean they kind of have to implement it, but the standard is still rather awful in many regards, like no caching by default (but at least headers get compressed?), bad security, ...

I really wonder whether there is a measurable change in traffic and whether it goes up or down.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by clarkbw » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:35 PM UTC

hackmiester wrote: post #56

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why's that added to the main program, though? I mean, there's extensions that do the same thing, right? (I'm sure others have made similar remarks about other features that were added over time that were originally in extensions)

I seem to recall that Readability required transmitting the page I was viewing to their servers, so I found myself avoiding it. I don't know if there were good alternatives, but I do have faith that Mozilla's will be good (although I haven't tried the nightly or anything), so I'm excited about that. Once I used it for a while, it felt like something a browser should just have.

We've put the source we're using up on github ( https://github.com/mozilla/readability ) and plan to use the same library on all platforms. Any contributions are welcome.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by gsnedders » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:39 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #13

blinkingled wrote: post #9

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Yeah, the full HTTP/2 support was a pleasant surprise! Wonder if Google's (and other prominent ones) web properties have switched over to HTTP/2 from SPDY yet.

According to http://spdycheck.org/#google.com google.com supports "h2-14" and "h2-15" which I'm guessing are drafts of HTTP/2?

Right. "h2" is what the final spec should give.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by btreecat » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:42 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #20

Meanwhile, in firefox 39a (current nightly), a reader view (readability/printfriendly) http://imgur.com/DONqb30

A similar feature has been available on mobile FF fore a while now and I use it pretty regularly.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by oblio » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:42 PM UTC

icebraining wrote: post #65

iopq wrote: post #50

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I have a crash probably every day. Usual culprit is Flash.

That's weird, since Flash runs on its own process (plugin-container). Is it actually crashing the whole browser?

It shouldn't. At least on Windows I've gotten used to killing the plugin container about once ever 2 days. Firefox itself crashes once per month, maybe less.

Firefox = rock solid. Flash = porous rock, at best :)

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by cmiles74 » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:42 PM UTC

sauere wrote: post #4

Semi-OT: is anyone on HN using a "alternative" Browser such as Midori or Vivaldi on a daily basis? I love what Midori is doing but it still crashes on me to often.

I've had crashing problems with both DWB and LuaKit, both on the same set of websites (most notably with Jira). I've also switched to Conkeror and have been pretty happy.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by pwnna » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:43 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #20

Meanwhile, in firefox 39a (current nightly), a reader view (readability/printfriendly) http://imgur.com/DONqb30

How did you enable this? I'm on 39 as well and I can't find the option?

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by HelloMcFly » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:43 PM UTC

bobcostas55 wrote: post #59

Ded7xSEoPKYNsDd wrote: post #28

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Session restore in Firefox has been lazy for a long time now (the tab only loads when you activate it). It doesn't take longer than loading a single page. How often do tabs crash for you? That's the real issue if you ask me. I'm on Nightly (with Electrolysis!) and the last crash was over 2 months ago.

>It doesn't take longer than loading a single page. Yeah, because it only loads a single page. It doesn't actually restore anything. Sometimes the pages it restores aren't even the live version but a cached one, I have no idea when or why it does that. It's absolutely infuriating.

Infuriating? It's one of the main reasons I've switched back to FF (that, and tab groups)! I didn't like have every single tab reload on restore as I don't need 90% of them until much later.

Re: Firefox 36.0 released

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 4:45 PM UTC

bobcostas55 wrote: post #59

Ded7xSEoPKYNsDd wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Session restore in Firefox has been lazy for a long time now (the tab only loads when you activate it). It doesn't take longer than loading a single page. How often do tabs crash for you? That's the real issue if you ask me. I'm on Nightly (with Electrolysis!) and the last crash was over 2 months ago.

>It doesn't take longer than loading a single page. Yeah, because it only loads a single page. It doesn't actually restore anything. Sometimes the pages it restores aren't even the live version but a cached one, I have no idea when or why it does that. It's absolutely infuriating.

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