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Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by petercooper »

blakeja wrote: post #34

Curious to know how many of you with children are going to use the time limit feature? I have a kid on the way and I have concerns about my child spending his formative years glued to youtube...

Nope. Both of my kids have used YouTube since around 18 months' old and I don't plan on ever enacting any limits on "screen time."

I guess it varies by the kid, but neither of my kids seem able to stay stuck on the same mind-numbing task for long and they naturally progress to wanting to do more interactive stuff anyway. I think placing artificial limits instead provides a temptation to use their "quota" and makes the activity seem like a treat they have to use instead of just a normal part of life.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by timothya »

avalaunch wrote: post #16
thorntonbf wrote: post #7

I realize that full curation probably isn't possible as this thing scales, but as a parent, this thing will live or die based on the content they allow into the stream. I love watching videos of people building stuff with my kids. Moreover, I love watching the creativeness that some of the videos inspire in my kids. Unfortunately, to date, I have had to preview most of the content my children see on YouTube so that t…

I don't watch much on YouTube so they may already do some of this but it seems to me like this would be an easy problem to solve if they so desired. Add a rating system where the content creators rate themselves and an easy way for viewers to flag them as incorrectly rated. Add to that a confidence rating of how likely a video is correctly rated (based on number of views without flagging) and you could confidently le…

What you describe is already supported, though it looks like it's only available for paid videos or channels (anyone can set whether or not a video of theirs is "mature" and should be age-restricted, however). The rating levels are listed here: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/146399

And instructions for creators to set ratings is described here: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/176714

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by ifcho »

raldi wrote: post #8
impostervt wrote: post #6

My kids, 5 and 2, have really been into these weird toy unboxing videos recently. They're fine with me from a "ok for kids" point of view, though I don't see the attraction. Anyway, I just wonder if these type of videos will be available. example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_e8CPuVepA

Relax, your kids are normal -- this is a well-known phenomenon amongst children born in the last decade: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/magazine/a-mothers-journey...

I also think that the way the DisneyCollector sound is recorded plays a role. It sounds a lot like binaural audio - http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8021733/3d-audio-3dio-bina...

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by inanutshellus »

swamp40 wrote: post #15

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The lack of curation on YouTube has been a source of frustration in our house for a long time. The kids just scroll down the list on the side of the viewer and hit whatever video they think looks interesting. Then the next thing you hear is swearing, and there's no effective way to stop that from showing up on 100,000 other kid's feeds. (And it would be so easy to implement!) Our kids…

Last week we were watching "Annie" music videos on YouTube with my four year old and a commercial for a horror movie comes on.

It was a calamity. To stop the video, (which was being Chromecast onto my TV) I jumped to the couch to get my phone, waited for it to wake up, then spasmed on the screen trying to figure out how to exit or pause or whatever. It of course ignored me entirely. After all, the only reason I'd skip an ad is because I'm trying to bypass their ad-revenue. Le sigh.

My wife is meanwhile trying to get my daughter's attention innocuously so she won't watch a dead, rotting woman attack a little boy.

...

Needless to say, this change is welcome.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by vertex-four »

impostervt wrote: post #14
thorntonbf wrote: post #7

I realize that full curation probably isn't possible as this thing scales, but as a parent, this thing will live or die based on the content they allow into the stream. I love watching videos of people building stuff with my kids. Moreover, I love watching the creativeness that some of the videos inspire in my kids. Unfortunately, to date, I have had to preview most of the content my children see on YouTube so that t…

There's probably an app-idea in there. Maybe an app that costs video creators some small amount, say $5, that gets their video in a "for-kids" video app. The $5 pays to have your video reviewed and tagged so that parents can filter what they want their kid to see. As a parent, I would definitely pay for that app/service.

So... what does the video creator get out of it? Once you've got an actual monetary barrier in place, they're not going to pay for their videos to be shown just for fun.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by magicalist »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #60
VLM wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When this happened to my son, rather than deleting everything and losing all his contacts and emails with his auntie etc etc, google just demanded I pay a bribe of 50 cents on a credit card, on the hilarious assumption that the only people in a family with access to CC are parents. At least this is how they did it back in the good old days.

> on the hilarious assumption that the only people in a family with access to CC are parents // Hilarious? How do under-13s get banks to issue them credit cards? Presumably they only allow the payment from a CC connected to an account rather than a payment card (I assume payment gateways do that sort of differentiation). Even if some under-13s can access and use a credit-card it seems likely to me that the vast major…

For general interest, note that a transaction on a credit card is one of the explicit ways COPPA allows for verifying that someone is not a child. See §312.5(b)(2) in https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/312.5

Any hilarity should be taken up with congress.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by impostervt »

vertex-four wrote: post #66
impostervt wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's probably an app-idea in there. Maybe an app that costs video creators some small amount, say $5, that gets their video in a "for-kids" video app. The $5 pays to have your video reviewed and tagged so that parents can filter what they want their kid to see. As a parent, I would definitely pay for that app/service.

So... what does the video creator get out of it? Once you've got an actual monetary barrier in place, they're not going to pay for their videos to be shown just for fun.

They get their video in front of kids that otherwise wouldn't be allowed to see it. The video can still play normal youtube ads to make them money.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by xanderstrike »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #60
VLM wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When this happened to my son, rather than deleting everything and losing all his contacts and emails with his auntie etc etc, google just demanded I pay a bribe of 50 cents on a credit card, on the hilarious assumption that the only people in a family with access to CC are parents. At least this is how they did it back in the good old days.

> on the hilarious assumption that the only people in a family with access to CC are parents // Hilarious? How do under-13s get banks to issue them credit cards? Presumably they only allow the payment from a CC connected to an account rather than a payment card (I assume payment gateways do that sort of differentiation). Even if some under-13s can access and use a credit-card it seems likely to me that the vast major…

I got a debit card when I got my first bank account at 10 years old in ~2001. I didn't pay for anything online with it until my mid teens (when I had a job), but I do remember having to use it to verify my account for the SecondLife teen grid.

Virtually all bank accounts come with debit cards nowadays, if your parents are forward thinking enough to set you up with a bank account then you could have a card very young.

Re: Our first building block in tech for tykes: YouTube Kids

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Post by munaf »

famousactress wrote: post #3

I can't find mention of whether or not there are ads. Ads are a deal-breaker for me with the kidlet. Currently whenever she asks to "See ostriches" or "People throwing fish!" (we brought her to Pike's Place market in Seattle and the kid was oddly obsesseed) it's a dice roll whether we sit through a Lexus ad. I'd happily pay a modest amount for a product like this one provided she doesn't have to see ads (regardless o…

YouTube Kids includes kid-friendly ads:

http://mashable.com/2015/02/23/youtube-kids/

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