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Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by l-jenkins »

jchannon wrote: post #24
swalsh wrote: post #23

I'm not sure i'd use this. Visual studio is a great tool, and is about 90% of the reason I use dot net. That said, though it's improving, Javascript support still has a long ways to go. I find myself writing increasing amounts of it as Knockout and Angular become standard place. I crave to have some of the features that I have with editing C# while editing javascript. If you provided that, i'd buy a license. Though m…

.Net is going cross platform. What are you going to use if you develop on OSX or Linux? It won't be VS

Unless of course they push to make VS cross platform. I wouldn't be surprised if this is in the works. There has been a huge push at MS to become more cross platform with their product offerings. They must know a lot of their developers run OSX with a Windows VM just to run VS. I know pretty much our entire team does that.

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by colinramsay »

This looks great. I always enjoyed Visual Studio but Monodevelop/Xamarin Studio always feels a bit rickety to me. The key for me is refactoring and code intelligence which is briefly mentioned on the homepage, but can you shed any light on your plans in this area?

Also, a minor thing - what's the typeface in the "PROPORTIONAL FONTS" screenshot?

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by stirno »

swalsh wrote: post #23

I'm not sure i'd use this. Visual studio is a great tool, and is about 90% of the reason I use dot net. That said, though it's improving, Javascript support still has a long ways to go. I find myself writing increasing amounts of it as Knockout and Angular become standard place. I crave to have some of the features that I have with editing C# while editing javascript. If you provided that, i'd buy a license. Though m…

We've got more direct support for Angular, Knockout and React in the backlog but I don't want to lie to you and say its happening tomorrow. Soon though. Thanks for your feedback!

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by stirno »

colinramsay wrote: post #32

This looks great. I always enjoyed Visual Studio but Monodevelop/Xamarin Studio always feels a bit rickety to me. The key for me is refactoring and code intelligence which is briefly mentioned on the homepage, but can you shed any light on your plans in this area? Also, a minor thing - what's the typeface in the "PROPORTIONAL FONTS" screenshot?

We're building on/and hoping to contribute to the community Code Fixes/Code Actions being built for Roslyn as far as refactoring goes in C#. We have some plans of providing a similar interface for other CodeEngines to implement diagnostics/fixes.

The font is Input Sans [0]. Great font. We wanted to try and package it with Scrawl but we never heard back from the author. Its free though, go try it out!

[0] - http://input.fontbureau.com/preview/?size=14&language=python...

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by swalsh »

jchannon wrote: post #24
swalsh wrote: post #23

I'm not sure i'd use this. Visual studio is a great tool, and is about 90% of the reason I use dot net. That said, though it's improving, Javascript support still has a long ways to go. I find myself writing increasing amounts of it as Knockout and Angular become standard place. I crave to have some of the features that I have with editing C# while editing javascript. If you provided that, i'd buy a license. Though m…

.Net is going cross platform. What are you going to use if you develop on OSX or Linux? It won't be VS

Why do i need to care? Today the only cross platform thing I worry about is if my site works correctly in IE/Firefox/Chrome/Safari. I don't care about my tools, I use windows, in the past I've used windows in a virtual machine on OSX. I'm not worried about it as a web developer.

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by colinramsay »

stirno wrote: post #35
colinramsay wrote: post #32

This looks great. I always enjoyed Visual Studio but Monodevelop/Xamarin Studio always feels a bit rickety to me. The key for me is refactoring and code intelligence which is briefly mentioned on the homepage, but can you shed any light on your plans in this area? Also, a minor thing - what's the typeface in the "PROPORTIONAL FONTS" screenshot?

We're building on/and hoping to contribute to the community Code Fixes/Code Actions being built for Roslyn as far as refactoring goes in C#. We have some plans of providing a similar interface for other CodeEngines to implement diagnostics/fixes. The font is Input Sans [0]. Great font. We wanted to try and package it with Scrawl but we never heard back from the author. Its free though, go try it out! [0] - http://inp…

Thanks! It would be fantastic if individual refactorings could be packaged up and shared via github or some kind of package manager...

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by judah »

l-jenkins wrote: post #31
jchannon wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.Net is going cross platform. What are you going to use if you develop on OSX or Linux? It won't be VS

Unless of course they push to make VS cross platform. I wouldn't be surprised if this is in the works. There has been a huge push at MS to become more cross platform with their product offerings. They must know a lot of their developers run OSX with a Windows VM just to run VS. I know pretty much our entire team does that.

As someone who has worked with Visual Studio and integration APIs for a long time, a port of VS across platforms would be a huge undertaking. A rewrite, essentially.

Visual Studio is heavily tied to WPF (Windows-only) presentation framework, COM (Windows-only) for communication across components and plugins, as well as bits of native legacy code throughout (Windows-only.)

Truly, you're looking at rewriting Visual Studio to get it on OSX. Heck, MS would probably be better off just buying Scrawl and rebranding it as Visual Studio for Mac.

And remember: while .NET is going cross-platform, there are no public plans for a cross-platform UI toolkit; there is no cross platform WinForms or WPF from Microsoft.

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by dmarg »

stirno wrote: post #25

Founder of fluentCODE here. Really happy to see this posted, we just pushed really hard last night to get the site up. Lots of good comments -- I'll just add that we will be a lot more than just a C#/VB/JS editor. We've got plans to build CodeEngines for F#, TypeScript, CoffeeScript, CSS/SCSS/SASS/LESS, PHP, python and lots of framework specific bits for each of those. We're a small team working hard on a product we…

This looks interesting and I would love to try it so do you all have any plans of releasing a trial version or giving a trial period?

Re: Scrawl – A modern, cross-platform C#, VB.NET and JavaScript IDE

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Post by cwyers »

stirno wrote: post #25

Founder of fluentCODE here. Really happy to see this posted, we just pushed really hard last night to get the site up. Lots of good comments -- I'll just add that we will be a lot more than just a C#/VB/JS editor. We've got plans to build CodeEngines for F#, TypeScript, CoffeeScript, CSS/SCSS/SASS/LESS, PHP, python and lots of framework specific bits for each of those. We're a small team working hard on a product we…

SQL seems to be missing from that list. Is that on your roadmap at some point?
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