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The Superfish Funder List
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Re: The Superfish Funder List
#32Draper Fisher Jurvetson = SuperFish? Classy.
Ultimately its worth remembering this is Windows..... Microsoft has to be responsible for the crapware installed when people buy a Windows computer. The reasonable conclusion is that if you buy Windows you risk stuff like this because Windows resellers install crapware on top of clean Windows builds.
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#33Draper Fisher Jurvetson = SuperFish? Classy. Ultimately its worth remembering this is Windows..... Microsoft has to be responsible for the crapware installed when people buy a Windows computer. The reasonable conclusion is that if you buy Windows you risk stuff like this because Windows resellers install crapware on top of clean Windows builds.
I agree, I like Windows, and I think Microsoft agrees too... But they also have agreements that come from times that were very different. The official Microsoft store, their own hardware, special new editions are some of the ways they seem to try to get around it. Sucks for users, either they don't know better, they have to build their own/clean their own, or buy from a limited selection.
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#34What about criminal prosecution? In plenty jurisdictions this is illegal. Wiretaping, unauthorised access, unauthorised decryption, "Hacking", breach of privacy (manybe even copyright infringement; they edited other peoples content without their permission) or something like that is usually prosecuted harshly if it's done by a individual. I hope a company does not get away with it.
I hope that there will be legal ramifications to discourage this kind of behavior, but ultimately, the vendor that packaged Superfish with the computers is a Chinese company who will probably claim that this kind of thing is permitted by their EULA.
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#35Draper Fisher Jurvetson = SuperFish? Classy. Ultimately its worth remembering this is Windows..... Microsoft has to be responsible for the crapware installed when people buy a Windows computer. The reasonable conclusion is that if you buy Windows you risk stuff like this because Windows resellers install crapware on top of clean Windows builds.
I agree, I like Windows, and I think Microsoft agrees too... But they also have agreements that come from times that were very different. The official Microsoft store, their own hardware, special new editions are some of the ways they seem to try to get around it. Sucks for users, either they don't know better, they have to build their own/clean their own, or buy from a limited selection.
It's way funnier than that. They can't interfere with crapware because of anti-trust decisions.
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#36One of the most effective ways we can shut down companies that make this kind of crapware is public shaming.
Publicly naming companies and executives associated with this horrendous breach of privacy and security should hopefully serve as a deterrent for VCs who are considering making a quick buck by funding companies that are fucking over non-tech literate consumers.
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#37It may be immature but this Adi Pinhas guy sounds like he's a bit of a dick: http://www.home.superfish.com/#!about-us/c1eqi
What does it say? Ironically my work proxy blocks their website
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#38even thgough im Palestinian and these guys are Israeli, should we really be blaming superfish? this company makes software, seams like a bunch of hackers to me. Lenovo is the real culprit here.
Yes, we should be blaming them. The product serves a bad purpose, and doesn't even have the redeeming quality of being well-implemented.
Not to mention how reluctant they were to even admit the security issues presented by Superfish installations. They (and Lenovo) repeatedly denied that the injection of a trusted root certificate posed a security threat.
Spin your mistakes however you want in a press release, but don't lie about security vulnerabilities that put users at risk.
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#39What about criminal prosecution? In plenty jurisdictions this is illegal. Wiretaping, unauthorised access, unauthorised decryption, "Hacking", breach of privacy (manybe even copyright infringement; they edited other peoples content without their permission) or something like that is usually prosecuted harshly if it's done by a individual. I hope a company does not get away with it.
I hope that there will be legal ramifications to discourage this kind of behavior, but ultimately, the vendor that packaged Superfish with the computers is a Chinese company who will probably claim that this kind of thing is permitted by their EULA.
What does it matter that Lenovo is chinese and Superfish Israeli?
Re: The Superfish Funder List
#40One of the most effective ways we can shut down companies that make this kind of crapware is public shaming. Publicly naming companies and executives associated with this horrendous breach of privacy and security should hopefully serve as a deterrent for VCs who are considering making a quick buck by funding companies that are fucking over non-tech literate consumers.
Publicly shaming Comcast doesn't seem to be working, at all. I think it's good in theory, but doesn't work so well in practice.