A friend of mine has some sort of security business, maybe I could get you in contact with him for advice at the least.
Ask HN: What to do when all you have is talent?
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#12>I don't know what's in demand. What can people still turn in to a long-term career? What area or "discipline" in IT shows promise for a career? Here's one rule of thumb I've been using to gauge demand. If someone's willing to hire you to use a tool even though you haven't really used it before, then the demand is there. Another warning is that what's hot now may not be hot 5 years from now. iOS is hot right now. I'm…
They won't. Apple's vertical integration gives them a UI advantage. 'Normals' like easy-to-use things.
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#14I'm currently working my first job in IT, for two years now, after having only fast food and retail jobs. How did I get here? It wasn't my college education (I'm a dropout, due to transportation and money issues at the time). College did play a big role, though.
One of my instructors saw that talent you mentioned in me, and she knew I was into Linux while the rest of the students knew only Windows. One day one of her old students called her up and asked if she knew anyone who might be a good fit for a job he was trying to fill. I was the guy she went to, and now I'm in IT.
Long story short, it might be beneficial to you to know people who know people in IT security. College may be the place to meet those connections, though there are many other ways and places to accomplish that.
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#15I understand this might not be possible in your situation, but if you can find an evening, on-site, accelerated program at a local non-flagship state school then you might be missing an opportunity. I've known some people in similar situations for whom this approach worked out well.
I can provide some advice if this is at all plausible for you.
(edit: the comment by ferrari8608 is an excellent example of why attending an inexpensive university can be a good idea, even without finishing the degree program; you'd be surprised at the number of positions filled via "former professor" relationships).
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#16> I can't seem to get my foot in the door anywhere to do anything from level one help desk work to anything else.
Maybe it's how you come across personally; whether that's in interviews, or cover letters, or introductions.
A good hiring process is probably in the 60/40 ratio of talent/personality. If you're a complete 0 in the personality department, you're probably not going to get hired unless you're a Carmack-level talent. Some places will skew that one way or the other, but I doubt it'll ever go more then 75/25 either way unless you find somewhere completely dysfunctional.
Saying things like:
> I always bluffed my way in to jobs I was completely unqualified for and pulled it off quite well
are usually red flags for me, personality-wise. It reeks a little of someone who constantly needs to publicly validate themselves as "the smartest person in the room," and ends up not accepting feedback very well (if at all). To me, self-reflection, the acceptance that maybe you're not as talented as you think, and striving to constantly be better are critical parts of being a professional.
It's sorta like that person in school who constantly made sure to tell everyone that they didn't study and still aced the exam - most people don't enjoy working with or talking to that person for any extended period of time.
Anyway, I'm not gonna sit here and shit on you. We've all got our things. Just maybe some food for thought.
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#18Focus only on you positive achievements. Sell yourself.
Get on daily job mailing lists from ziprecruiter, indeed, dice, and postjobfree, and apply for at least 5 jobs a day.
Good luck.
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#19>I don't know what's in demand. What can people still turn in to a long-term career? What area or "discipline" in IT shows promise for a career? Here's one rule of thumb I've been using to gauge demand. If someone's willing to hire you to use a tool even though you haven't really used it before, then the demand is there. Another warning is that what's hot now may not be hot 5 years from now. iOS is hot right now. I'm…
> I'm concerned that, with Steve Jobs gone, Apple is going to implode and lose their market share. So there may be no iOS jobs 5 years from now. They won't. Apple's vertical integration gives them a UI advantage. 'Normals' like easy-to-use things.
I don't have to tweak, I don't have to customize and I don't have to fix. Also they have a sane approach to bugfixes and security. Sure, it's not an open platform, but Android isn't really either. I don't have time to care, I've got work to do.
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#202. Buckle down and master some real skills that are in demand. It's a cop out to say there are "too many options". All you have to do is pick one you're interested in and put the time in. You have to specialize though. Security isn't specific enough, penetration testing is, or iOS/Android development, frontend web development, whatever. After just a few months of study, you could probably find someone who will hire you at a low salary in any of these jobs. Then master the specialty on the job.