Female Founders Conference today at 1pm PT

Post by birdsareweird » Sat, Feb 21, 2015, 8:23 PM UTC

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And can we get any source on that claim?

Firsthand personal experience as a woman, plus observation of the world around me, including reading what other women write, many of whom are extremely angry about how men interact with them.

Post by tomp » Sat, Feb 21, 2015, 8:29 PM UTC

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You are creating a drama where there is none. People identify as male or female, and that might be different to how they were born. Ask a trans-person if they identify as male or female and they will usually tell you what they identify as now. They choice of "female" is possibly for the aliteration with "founder". There's nothing strange about that word choice.

Generally sex is what you were born as, you were born as either male or female. Gender is what you identify as, you either identify as man or woman. Now it is clear that PG and company aren't transphobic, but by giving in to the first demand for more representation of "minorities" (as if asians, immigrants and indians weren't minorities and weren't already statistically over representated) they have given the SJW a f…

Post by tomjen3 » Sat, Feb 21, 2015, 9:43 PM UTC

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Generally sex is what you were born as, you were born as either male or female. Gender is what you identify as, you either identify as man or woman. Now it is clear that PG and company aren't transphobic, but by giving in to the first demand for more representation of "minorities" (as if asians, immigrants and indians weren't minorities and weren't already statistically over representated) they have given the SJW a f…

That's just a question of words and their definitions. Personally, I use both woman and female completely the same, and sometimes it means women and trans-women (e.g. when I see someone who looks typically female), but mostly it means born women only (e.g. when I say I'm attracted to women). But of course, not everyone uses the same words with the same meaning. There's no need to assume bad faith.

Post by Mz » Sat, Feb 21, 2015, 9:45 PM UTC

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Or why do we have this separation? One of the biggest issues women face is that most men will not talk to them unless they are hoping to bed them. Men sometimes do this out of the best of intentions -- not wanting a woman to think he is hitting on her or not wanting anyone to think there is an affair because he is "friendly" with her -- but it is a very serious obstacle to women being able to network and actually hav…

> I do what I can to make it possible for women to participate more equally on HN. I think it is a good start, one more thing I highly suggest is to partecipate more in the opensource. I know it is a bit OT. Trust me, there are men as you described but there are (probably more) who are just interested in your skills and abilities. Why don't try to scale more this: https://github.com/trending/developers?since=weekly T…

Post by tomjen3 » Sat, Feb 21, 2015, 11:11 PM UTC

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Words and their definitions are pretty much what society is built on and it's useful to have words mean different things since it is what allows us to express so many different ideas -1984 famously destroyed the vocabulary of society expressly so that only the correct ideas could be considered. Without a difference in meaning, why have different words? It seems preposterous to extend the English language just to play…

Right, but the original meaning of "woman" is "a female human", whereas "female" is an adjective or a noun for one of the biological sexes (the one that produces ova in sexual reproduction). Including trans-women in the definition of "woman" is a modernistic redefinition of the word, so people are totally justified if they use the word with its original meaning. Maybe we should make up a new word for the new meaning?