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Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by jmcdowell »

Encosia wrote: post #111
artimaeis wrote: post #44

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This is a surprising comment to me. I've followed the laptop market pretty closely for years now and Apple consistently has offered the highest quality devices of everyone in my opinion. Most importantly to me is the sheer size/weight of the device while still maintaining features. In this way Macbooks have been superior for years - but I'm hoping there's just some lines I've missed. If you could point me to some lap…

I traded in my MacBook for an i7 ATIV Book 9 Plus about a year and a half ago. The Samsung was (I think) thinner and lighter than my Air, but had a higher than MBPr resolution display and i7 processor. Basically like a high end MBPr in an Air form factor. The Samsung was a pretty dramatic upgrade and I sold my MacBook almost immediately. I only miss it occasionally when I'd like to be able to build an iOS app. Today,…

I haven't used the Suface Pro 3 myself but I'm wondering, can it become your sole/main dev machine? Or is it only good for some light coding?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by driverdan »

cies wrote: post #72

A Developer Edition (with Linux preloaded) will come at some point. Currently there are driver issues of which the non-working audio is most persistent. Most elaborate info on it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1413446 In this Reddit thread... http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2u0jjd/linux_support_... ...you find comment from barton808, who identifies himself as the Team Lead of Sputni…

sigh

Linux on good new laptops always tends to be 85-90% of the way there. I'd like to switch back to Linux from Apple products but it's never 100%.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by m_mueller »

siegecraft wrote: post #12

I'm surprised that Dell managed to get back to this point, but I think Apple is no longer a no-brainer if you want a "nicer" build quality, and you can start differentiating based on support. I never thought I would buy a non-Apple laptop again, but I've actually been eyeing the Dell XPS and a friend's recent experiences w/ AppleCare makes me want to take every effort to find an alternative hardware vendor, assuming…

So far the consumer support stories I heard from Dell and Lenovo, have almost always been way worse than Apple's. When you read about good support from Dell for example, it's usually their business support. Apple can be tricky, but so far I've always been able to find at least one support partner or Apple store that is competent in a particular area. I've also never had to wait for long.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by steveax »

Igglyboo wrote: post #121
mrjatx wrote: post #22

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Man, I finally a few years ago got completely comfortable with OSX and scripted so much stuff that I can set myself up basically anywhere in 5-10 minutes. Now I'm stuck on a MBPr and get to watch all of these amazing new PC laptops come out that are so innovative. All of the hybrids, convertibles, detachable convertibles, rotatable convertibles. I'm so envious. Come on Apple, seriously.

They really need to step it up this year or their status as the go to dev laptop is going to fade. I really dont know why i can't get a touchscreen MBP yet either..

I don't understand the appeal of touch screens (really, not trolling). What sort of tasks do you find one superior for?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by pmh »

lallysingh wrote: post #128
masklinn wrote: post #82

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Ars found their data to be roughly in line with Dell's claim as well, though they only tested the high-res notebook and didn't check the FHD one: > Dell claims that the battery life of the XPS 13 is an impressive 15 hours for the 1920×1080 model and 11 hours for the 3200×1800 version. Our own battery testing is a little more punishing than Dell's, but the company's numbers seem to be in the right ballpark. In our tes…

Did you mean Anand, or did Ars do their own test? If you meant Anand, they tested both. Look for "Dell XPS 13 (9343) QHD+" and "Dell XPS 13 (9343) FHD" values in the charts.

He's talking about the Ars review: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/review-the-dell-xps-1...

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by cmurf »

MetaCosm wrote: post #78
cies wrote: post #72

A Developer Edition (with Linux preloaded) will come at some point. Currently there are driver issues of which the non-working audio is most persistent. Most elaborate info on it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1413446 In this Reddit thread... http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2u0jjd/linux_support_... ...you find comment from barton808, who identifies himself as the Team Lead of Sputni…

I was excited until I read 8GB max... that can't be right can it? What modern developer machine would have an 8GB cap?

Well one plus is the total RAM footprint of a Linux distro + a DE, is less (by a lot) than just OS X's kernel. Right now, xnu alone is using 960MB on my laptop. Oink oink oink.

Edit:MBP82, created new user accounts, reboot, login, launch Firefox, load CNN, wait 2 minutes. Did this twice each Fedora 21 Workstation (Gnome) and OS X 10.9.5. Fedora free -m used = 614MB. OS X top PhysMem Used = 2866M, Activity Monitor Memory Used = 3.69GB. I suspect Activity Monitor includes "wired" which top splits out. shrug Anyway, it's not a tiny difference. Omnomnomnom.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by currysausage »

MetaCosm wrote: post #78
cies wrote: post #72

A Developer Edition (with Linux preloaded) will come at some point. Currently there are driver issues of which the non-working audio is most persistent. Most elaborate info on it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1413446 In this Reddit thread... http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2u0jjd/linux_support_... ...you find comment from barton808, who identifies himself as the Team Lead of Sputni…

I was excited until I read 8GB max... that can't be right can it? What modern developer machine would have an 8GB cap?

The 3rd Gen ThinkPad X1 Carbon has 4GB (soldered) by default, and the biggest configuration that I can find has 8GB. What are they thinking?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by ch4ch4 »

dmm wrote: post #122
lhl wrote: post #86

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For those interested in following along on the process: https://major.io/2015/02/03/linux-support-dell-xps-13-9343-2... With an updated BIOS and a bunch of patches, it looks like it's getting close...

From the link: you could replace the bluetooth/wireless card with a different one. Can you really? Many laptops have whitelists and if a device doesn't present the correct pci id it won't be enabled by the bios.

In my experience, HP and Lenovo are usually the only ones enforcing whitelists.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review

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Post by mattwad »

m_mueller wrote: post #133
siegecraft wrote: post #12

I'm surprised that Dell managed to get back to this point, but I think Apple is no longer a no-brainer if you want a "nicer" build quality, and you can start differentiating based on support. I never thought I would buy a non-Apple laptop again, but I've actually been eyeing the Dell XPS and a friend's recent experiences w/ AppleCare makes me want to take every effort to find an alternative hardware vendor, assuming…

So far the consumer support stories I heard from Dell and Lenovo, have almost always been way worse than Apple's. When you read about good support from Dell for example, it's usually their business support. Apple can be tricky, but so far I've always been able to find at least one support partner or Apple store that is competent in a particular area. I've also never had to wait for long.

one thing also to consider, though is that Dell and Thinkpad have tiers of products (consumer, business), whereas Apple only has one. For example, the superfish thing doesn't even affect the Thinkpad line of Lenovo. If you only compare consumer reports for their Thinkpads vs Macbooks, you'd probably see less difference in costumer satisfaction.
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