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Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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> The relationship with Superfish is not financially significant; our goal was to enhance the experience for users. I would prefer for this to be a lie than for it to turn out for this statement to be true. Surely nobody at Lenovo honestly belived that ad injection improved user experience?

Fucking PR speek. That needs to stop too.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

#72
Even when they disabled server side operations, the malicious root certificate very likely remains on thousands of computers -- and thus a high security risk for all owners of those computers!

In essence, a root certificate with known private key is as dangerous as a worm that infected your computer. Maybe even more dangerous.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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post #27

> The relationship with Superfish is not financially significant; our goal was to enhance the experience for users. I would prefer for this to be a lie than for it to turn out for this statement to be true. Surely nobody at Lenovo honestly belived that ad injection improved user experience?

This would SEEM obvious because as techies we hate ads. But you can't extrapolate this to the general population. There was one time when I visited my mother. We started her instant messaging program, and we were presented with special offers. I recognized it as such within half a second, so I almost automatically checked the 'Do not show this again' checkbox. My mother alarmed me: "No, do not make it go away! I want…

I used to get a subscription to Computer Shopper back in the day. And it wasn't because of the articles in it either.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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post #32
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> We have thoroughly investigated this technology and do not find any evidence to substantiate security concerns. I try to be measured around here, as hard as I can. I can't formulate a polite way to respond to this claim. Lenovo, you are full of shit, and maliciously so. There is no excuse, nor forgiveness, for what you've done here.

Can you ever imagine Apple pulling a stunt like this? No, because it’s astonishingly user hostile: Lenovo should be hanging their head in shame, not making out like it’s no big deal.

Didn't Apple do just that with Antennagate?

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

#75
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"We have thoroughly investigated this technology and do not find any evidence to substantiate security concerns." Seriously?!

I expected that quote, but this one is even more off the rocker: "The relationship with Superfish is not financially significant; our goal was to enhance the experience for users." Right.

Yeah. The "no security issues" line is possibly oblivious, but that one's just a straight-up lie.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would SEEM obvious because as techies we hate ads. But you can't extrapolate this to the general population. There was one time when I visited my mother. We started her instant messaging program, and we were presented with special offers. I recognized it as such within half a second, so I almost automatically checked the 'Do not show this again' checkbox. My mother alarmed me: "No, do not make it go away! I want…

> supermarket special offers Why would you not want to sign up to know about what discounts are available at your local grocery store, especially if you frequent it weekly.

Our kind of audience has learned to be more effective with less distraction, likely because we have encountered information overload routinely before and therefore changed our behavior and preferences to prevent or lessen the problem.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would SEEM obvious because as techies we hate ads. But you can't extrapolate this to the general population. There was one time when I visited my mother. We started her instant messaging program, and we were presented with special offers. I recognized it as such within half a second, so I almost automatically checked the 'Do not show this again' checkbox. My mother alarmed me: "No, do not make it go away! I want…

> supermarket special offers Why would you not want to sign up to know about what discounts are available at your local grocery store, especially if you frequent it weekly.

Keyword there is "snail mail." You're saying you really want this stuff in your mailbox every week? I don't want any snail mail(of any kind), any week but it's something I still have to live with.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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post #27

> The relationship with Superfish is not financially significant; our goal was to enhance the experience for users. I would prefer for this to be a lie than for it to turn out for this statement to be true. Surely nobody at Lenovo honestly belived that ad injection improved user experience?

This would SEEM obvious because as techies we hate ads. But you can't extrapolate this to the general population. There was one time when I visited my mother. We started her instant messaging program, and we were presented with special offers. I recognized it as such within half a second, so I almost automatically checked the 'Do not show this again' checkbox. My mother alarmed me: "No, do not make it go away! I want…

I am mindblown too. I thought that it was pretty obvious by now to everyone that ads do not show you the offer that is best for you; they show you the offer that's best for the company, which means you spending more money on something subpar. I find ads anything but useful.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

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post #63
post #27

> The relationship with Superfish is not financially significant; our goal was to enhance the experience for users. I would prefer for this to be a lie than for it to turn out for this statement to be true. Surely nobody at Lenovo honestly belived that ad injection improved user experience?

> Surely nobody at Lenovo honestly belived that ad injection improved user experience? I can see the marketing folks honestly believing this. See, the problem with people in marketing is that they come up with ideas that sound good in theory but neglect to consider the implications. "Wouldn't it be great if I was presented with offers to buy things based on context clues in the web pages I'm browsing?" "Wouldn't it b…

Marketing folk are both the biggest scammers and biggest suckers at the same time. Causality is not one of their strong points.

Re: Lenovo Statement on Superfish

#80
post #13

I was considering getting a Lenovo X1 Carbon to run linux on. I'd be installing a clean image, so no Superfish, but I still don't want to give money to Lenovo right now. What alternative linux laptops are there? (aside from macs)

I recommend the Asus UX line. Don't get the super-high-end ones if you're going to put Linux on it, but you'll get excellent value for your money with $600.
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