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Moving Forward with Firefox

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Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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I wish there was a page on mozilla.org with the title, 'This is how Mozilla makes money'.

The Mozilla Foundation publishes an annual report[1] on that, which includes statements on its subsidiary, the Mozilla Corporation. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2013/

Seems like Mozilla is more of an investment company than a software corp.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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I wish there was a page on mozilla.org with the title, 'This is how Mozilla makes money'.

I believe Mozilla should start an advertising network and offer cloud services like webmail, docs, blogs, photos, etc so people create an everlasting bond with their properties while maintaining the open web motto they are already known and praised for. An extra couple billion dollars a year wouldn't hurt either.

And, you know, buy a video service and make some glasses too. All in the name of not doing evil, right?

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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"Moving Forward" "achieved positive growth again and dramatically reset our global search strategy" Did anyone else find those phrases to be a bit too much corporatese for Mozilla?

Agreed. Longtime user -- I was on the Netscape 4.3, then 7.1, Kmeleon project, then Phoenix, then Firdbird, then Firefox? I cant keep up.

With that being said, Mozilla has been (in my mind) the pro consumer, pro internet org to challenge the establishment. So far, its worked wonders -- we have a diverse ecosystem, new burning edge interfaces and plugin market places to boot. The partnership with the Tor project gave me hope. However..reading that PR blurb/intro made me want to pluck out my eyeballs. Where is the heart? The direction? The challenge?

Mozilla -- Its time you returned to your roots. Find the spark that set you free and fan the flames.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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"Moving Forward" "achieved positive growth again and dramatically reset our global search strategy" Did anyone else find those phrases to be a bit too much corporatese for Mozilla?

My guess is they're trying to be especially corporate and professional and bland after the whole Eich debacle.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Mozilla should start an advertising network and offer cloud services like webmail, docs, blogs, photos, etc so people create an everlasting bond with their properties while maintaining the open web motto they are already known and praised for. An extra couple billion dollars a year wouldn't hurt either.

And, you know, buy a video service and make some glasses too. All in the name of not doing evil, right?

Dont forget maps, reviews, and a social network.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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"Moving Forward" "achieved positive growth again and dramatically reset our global search strategy" Did anyone else find those phrases to be a bit too much corporatese for Mozilla?

"achieved positive growth" is pretty self-explanatory. "dramatically reset the global search strategy" is a bit weirder but they are (most likely) talking about their search deal with Google which they terminated in favour of Yahoo! and yes, that is a pretty dramatic reset.

If you don't want to read corporatese, well, don't read a corporate blog. Mozilla is a great company and a great presence for the web, but Mozilla Corp is still a corp, even if the Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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I wish there was a page on mozilla.org with the title, 'This is how Mozilla makes money'.

Valid. Its nice to know where the money flows from. At the same time, I could care less how they make the money and more about 'this is how Mozilla disrupts'.

That, if we get down to it, is what they were originally set out to do.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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"Moving Forward" "achieved positive growth again and dramatically reset our global search strategy" Did anyone else find those phrases to be a bit too much corporatese for Mozilla?

My guess is they're trying to be especially corporate and professional and bland after the whole Eich debacle.

IBM and GE are all the proof we need that 'corporate' doesn't change the world. Edit; they once offered innovation, now they suck its blood.

Re: Moving Forward with Firefox

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"Moving Forward" "achieved positive growth again and dramatically reset our global search strategy" Did anyone else find those phrases to be a bit too much corporatese for Mozilla?

Agreed. Longtime user -- I was on the Netscape 4.3, then 7.1, Kmeleon project, then Phoenix, then Firdbird, then Firefox? I cant keep up. With that being said, Mozilla has been (in my mind) the pro consumer, pro internet org to challenge the establishment. So far, its worked wonders -- we have a diverse ecosystem, new burning edge interfaces and plugin market places to boot. The partnership with the Tor project gave…

> Longtime user -- I was on the Netscape 4.3, then 7.1, Kmeleon project, then Phoenix, then Firdbird, then Firefox? I cant keep up.

You named 5 things that happened in the span of 3 years over 12 years ago, and one that has been around for a decade. I'm pretty sure you can in fact keep up.

> Where is the heart? The direction? The challenge?

Please.

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