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Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#71
Get out! Now! Then clean your Appartment and realy Force Your Self to keep it clean.

Got burned twice. Took me 3 years to recover from the Last time. Just finished cleaning my Appartement from 3 years worth of trash. I am so relived!

If You try to work through it you just Drive your self deeper. Scaling back to halve time may work, but its realy the responsibility that kills you.

Sports, Arts, Travel Are helpfull and Friends! Tell Your Friends You Are burned, Tell them You will try to kick em out Your Life, and Tell them they should insist - they should not stop calling you even if you push em back.

Good luck! And next time: Take an early vacation before your Brain is fucked.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#72
Sometimes failing/falling hard is good; there are lessons to be learnt that we often don't learn any other way.

So, chances are this round of stress may not go well, and if it does, it may not be the last.

Step away and analyze where it is that you fail ( in addition to the other factors ). That will be a valuable learning opportunity.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#73
It's like asking, how do I walk without legs?

Unlike what Nike's ad says, somethings are not possible, and most things are not worth it. Your family, sanity, health come first; more so than work, pride and money(beyond basics).

What you are experiencing is a sampling error, where you are surrounded by young people who have similar views as yourself. Get out, see more of the world, heck, work for a IT dept. You would be surprised by how much money they make for the work they do.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#75
post #8

If you're as fogged out as you seem to be, then the hours you're spending at work are pretty much completely unproductive. I'd suggest you use them more wisely by going home and getting a really good nights sleep. Consider it an investment in being more productive tomorrow.

That is useless advice. More so, it is hurtful advice. "Get a long night sleep" is not always an option. And the person above is clearly asking "When a long night of sleep is not an option, what else can I do?" We all know there are professions (fire fighters, police, soldiers, nurses, doctors, computer programmers, etc) where it is sometimes necessary to work extreme hours. And the question being asked is clearly, h…

We all know there are professions (fire fighters, police, soldiers, nurses, doctors, computer programmers, etc) where it is sometimes necessary to work extreme hours.

One of those professions is not like the others.

And the question being asked is clearly, how do you keep operating when you have to work extreme hours?

And the honest answer is that, beyond a certain point, you simply can't. No-one is super-human. And clearly from the description the OP has given us, they have reached this point.

When you're being pressured to do those hours and you're already burnt out, it can be difficult to see your situation objectively and to make rational decisions about how to proceed. You are severely mentally impaired. The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging that it exists, but in this sort of situation denial and misplaced faith that some sort of heroic effort will make everything better is all too common a response.

In reality, if taking enough time out to have a decent meal, a bit of exercise and a proper sleep before continuing will cause catastrophic failure of the project then the project was already in so much trouble that the OP should bear no responsibility for what happens next. Playing hero at the expense of their own health is most likely just delaying the inevitable.

Sure, there could be an exception here... But it's about as likely as winning the lottery every week for a year.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#76
post #45

Take breaks and try excercise. I can tell you what won't work. Any "Smart drugs" I say this becasue I have been on amphetamines for years. The secret they don't want you to know? They stop working.. And you need more and more. Try to stop them? Not without a few months of having zero energy or being able to think at all. Stay away from "quick fixes" this includes nootropics. There is no simple solution and no substit…

I've been on Vyvanse for years and it hasn't stopped working. If I don't take it, I'll feel tired by around 8 PM. If I do, I can stay up for much longer (although it doesn't seem to really hamper my ability to fall sleep).

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#77

For me, this is what I do and what has worked for me thus far. Mental preparation. Always have conversations with yourself about your state of mind, be your own therapist, I tell myself that I'm blessed and working 24/7 is nothing. There are folks who have a much more physical and mentally demanding jobs. There are people who are living in war zone and their job everyday is to survive, to avoid getting shot, blown to…

"be your own therapist" That's impossible. It's like being your own dentist when you have problems in your teeth.

Actually I've found that reading certain books and watching certain movies makes me very introspective, and I can diagnose a lot of my own problems by journaling.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#78
post #8

If you're as fogged out as you seem to be, then the hours you're spending at work are pretty much completely unproductive. I'd suggest you use them more wisely by going home and getting a really good nights sleep. Consider it an investment in being more productive tomorrow.

That is useless advice. More so, it is hurtful advice. "Get a long night sleep" is not always an option. And the person above is clearly asking "When a long night of sleep is not an option, what else can I do?" We all know there are professions (fire fighters, police, soldiers, nurses, doctors, computer programmers, etc) where it is sometimes necessary to work extreme hours. And the question being asked is clearly, h…

>We all know there are professions (fire fighters, police, soldiers, nurses, doctors, computer programmers, etc)

Which one of those things doesn't belong? 5 of those are responsible for the health and/or lives of other people. They aren't sitting at a desk.

Unless you're working on some critical infrastructure, which is probably a very small percentage of people, in what circumstances should computer programmers be working "extreme" hours? Very, very few.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#79
Are you sure it's only burnout? You could be depressed. I feel like the symptoms are kind of interchangeable to me. Mostly I can't tell if I'm depressed because work sucks or if work sucks because I'm depressed. Maybe talking to a therapist would help? Therapy and medication seem to help me a bit but I still wouldn't say I'm 100%.

Re: Ask HN: Working through burnout?

#80
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you realize that the question being asked has nothing to do with what you are suggesting? The question is clearly about those situations where "Go get a good long sleep" is not an option. Are you going to argue that "Go get a good long sleep" is always an option, under all circumstances? if so, make that argument: detail the cases where the whole company was depending on you to reach some crucial deadline, and you…

Bullshit. How often do those "critical deadlines" end up not meaning anything other than some MBA chose a date at random? And if the business truly does hinge on meeting this one deadline, why is he he only one on it? As for your sob story, why in the holy fuck did you put off the work until the week of the meeting?

>other than some MBA chose a date at random?

I'll bet you 90% of these companies working ridiculous hours are run by programmers.

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