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Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Why is this being posted? Its not like they are expecting any special skill that anyone who works for minimum wage would not have.

I think that's the joke. Must have HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE IN ALL THE THINGS (with bonus "Hosting" on GitHub)! Pay rate: $12/hr.

Github hosts code, Github also hosts websites. It's not too outrageous.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Personally, I'm learning to code in Python, and once I do will probably work for $3 per hour doing remote work via a freelancing site. At the moment I'm going through Flask— which shouldn't take more than a couple of days to grok at a basic level. I made a CRUD site a few years ago, so it's not like I'm starting for zero. Anyway, working for below minimum wage is economically rational. Once I have more experience I'l…

Don't go that way. Seriously. It's better to offer your services for free to local non-profits than work for peanuts. The main thing is that clients who pay the lowest also treat you the worst. You'll meet a lot of unreasonable demands and overally crappy people while working those very low wage projects. Go to your local non-profits and offer them your services for free. Be clear that you're just learning and that's…

If they pay by the hour, then I don't care if they want me implement odd requests.

I need some money. Not much. $3 per hour is more than enough—since I have another source of passive income.

I've done a little web design freelancing in the past, so know what to expect. The worst part about freelancing is feature creep, IMO. Which isn't an issue, if I get paid per hour.

I've thought it through. I'm in the UK and could get a minimum wage job with way higher pay. But that wouldn't be coding or making products.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't go that way. Seriously. It's better to offer your services for free to local non-profits than work for peanuts. The main thing is that clients who pay the lowest also treat you the worst. You'll meet a lot of unreasonable demands and overally crappy people while working those very low wage projects. Go to your local non-profits and offer them your services for free. Be clear that you're just learning and that's…

I learned web programming by building an e-commerce site from scratch in Perl the late 90s. When all was said and done, my partner and I split $2k, which brought my hourly rate to $1-$2/hour. But for 10 years I made $55-$75/hour maintaining that thing - which I hadn't really foreseen I just wanted to learn web programming. The point is it can be worthwhile.

I think we're talking about different things. Did you do freelancing on Elance/Odesk/etc?

I agree that doing a useful real world project for learning is great. If you get paid for it, it's even better. But cheapass clients on those websites are usually a different kind. People want to have a {popular thing} clone or {popular thing} meets {another popular thing} and don't really understand neither what they want from the freelancer nor what they want as the final delivery. Of course, there're good but cheap projects on those marketplaces as well. But as a beginner, it's way too use to stumble upon let's say... not very pleasant clients. Thus if money is not the issue, I'd recommend going the non-profit way instead. They at least know what they want and usually appreciate your work.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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SWI-Prolog? DrRacket? This has to be a joke, right? They're obscure enough that a non-programmer wouldn't likely know they exist, yet nobody with a clue would request that of a web developer. The only plausible explanation I can fathom is that they Googled a list of IDEs and picked a few at random... or that this is a joke.

[i pray] it is. Many of the technologies listed solve the same problems, yet knowledge of "all" is a "must". I've seen some mixed stacks, but never the Java, Scheme, ASP, PHP, C++ one.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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SWI-Prolog? DrRacket? This has to be a joke, right? They're obscure enough that a non-programmer wouldn't likely know they exist, yet nobody with a clue would request that of a web developer. The only plausible explanation I can fathom is that they Googled a list of IDEs and picked a few at random... or that this is a joke.

This actually looks a lot like the product of someone asking several "tech savvy" friends what skills a web developer would need, and then pasting the results into a job announcement.

This practice isn't limited to small shops either - I've seen multi-billion dollar companies (not in the tech sector) require a 4 year CS degree for a Wordpress developer position.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't go that way. Seriously. It's better to offer your services for free to local non-profits than work for peanuts. The main thing is that clients who pay the lowest also treat you the worst. You'll meet a lot of unreasonable demands and overally crappy people while working those very low wage projects. Go to your local non-profits and offer them your services for free. Be clear that you're just learning and that's…

If they pay by the hour, then I don't care if they want me implement odd requests. I need some money. Not much. $3 per hour is more than enough—since I have another source of passive income. I've done a little web design freelancing in the past, so know what to expect. The worst part about freelancing is feature creep, IMO. Which isn't an issue, if I get paid per hour. I've thought it through. I'm in the UK and could…

That's cool if you know what to expect. Per-hour is not the answer to all problems though. I had clients who were very picky about the hours logged.

Make sure to check Freelancers' thread on HN on the 1st of the month.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Once again, we see the terrible effects of there being not enough technical talent here in the United States. As we are constantly told by the VCs and large tech firms, we need to open up the green card immigration program to allow developers in who will do the jobs that Americans just won't do. Like, for example, being a full stack web developer who does QA, customer support and data scrubbing for 12 bucks an hour w…

I do agree with you, but to be fair, this is only a single post, likely from some company that either has no idea what they're doing or is deliberately interested in exploiting someone in desperate need of a job.

They clearly know what they are doing. They definitely need people with prolog experience
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