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WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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SWI-Prolog? DrRacket? This has to be a joke, right?

They're obscure enough that a non-programmer wouldn't likely know they exist, yet nobody with a clue would request that of a web developer. The only plausible explanation I can fathom is that they Googled a list of IDEs and picked a few at random... or that this is a joke.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Once again, we see the terrible effects of there being not enough technical talent here in the United States. As we are constantly told by the VCs and large tech firms, we need to open up the green card immigration program to allow developers in who will do the jobs that Americans just won't do. Like, for example, being a full stack web developer who does QA, customer support and data scrubbing for 12 bucks an hour w…

Think we have it in Aussie, the 417 ? visa, whereby you can undercut locals with very, very shit talent. These guys should hit them up.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

#33
I don't live in LA so am not too sure about the wage market there. But 12$/hr seems pretty low for any job, let alone a developer position, in the second largest city in the US?

I bet some HR person came up with that stack and the corresponding pay.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Serious! Is this the average hourly rate for a web dev in Los Angeles?

My ecommerce business is based out of Los Angeles and our shipping clerk gets that. I wish he knew a dozen programming languages... unfortunately he is still training on email. He can pack the hell out of a box though.

You made me LOL "[...] I wish he knew a dozen programming languages... unfortunately he is still training on email."

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Personally, I'm learning to code in Python, and once I do will probably work for $3 per hour doing remote work via a freelancing site. At the moment I'm going through Flask— which shouldn't take more than a couple of days to grok at a basic level. I made a CRUD site a few years ago, so it's not like I'm starting for zero. Anyway, working for below minimum wage is economically rational. Once I have more experience I'l…

Don't go that way. Seriously. It's better to offer your services for free to local non-profits than work for peanuts. The main thing is that clients who pay the lowest also treat you the worst. You'll meet a lot of unreasonable demands and overally crappy people while working those very low wage projects.

Go to your local non-profits and offer them your services for free. Be clear that you're just learning and that's why you'd make them a web page or an intranet app for free. You'll get to learn, some feedback, more or less honest customers and karma points. Once you got experience and portfolio, you can go after the better paying projects (~$10/h or so) that are run by sane people who will treat you well.

Source: Started freelancing back in high school, almost 10 years in business.

Re: WEB DEVELOPER (DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES)

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Personally, I'm learning to code in Python, and once I do will probably work for $3 per hour doing remote work via a freelancing site. At the moment I'm going through Flask— which shouldn't take more than a couple of days to grok at a basic level. I made a CRUD site a few years ago, so it's not like I'm starting for zero. Anyway, working for below minimum wage is economically rational. Once I have more experience I'l…

I think this is a problem with the industry as a whole. You're generally not very valuable as a new, junior, or in-training developer, so to go from no knowledge to a place where you can learn and earn is tough. However, this creates a squeeze for proficient senior developers. The industry creates a bottleneck for early-career developers that restricts the supply of mature developers, which affords these developers very high market value.

It's not surprising to me that there are ads like this or sites where people can and do willingly work for $3/hour (and not just because their cost of living is lower), while at the same time the higher end of the market starts at nearly 6 figures fully loaded. The market wants senior developers, but doesn't want to invest in junior dev to get there.

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