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My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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Even better when you post a question to stackoverflow and a moderator closes it with "this question should be on xyz.stackexchange.com". You remove your question and post it there just to get another moderator saying "this question should be on stackoverflow".

It's obviously a great site, but as always most moderators are usually people with more spare time than real clue on how to organize things.

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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I used to love SO, but nowadays the proportion of assholes running the site is so big that it ruins everything.

To give you an example, check out the last question I've asked there: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27510345/c-map-assignment....

11 downvotes and closed within a few hours; apparently I pissed off one of the moderators (when asking him why is my question "off-topic") and he invited his gang to downvote me as well, some other guy even threatened to deactivate my account. That is SO now, and I no longer try to engage into that community.

Edit: Looking at how the votes in my question are evolving as we speak, I see that some guys still go in and downvote it more. Read out the question, and check out the really good accepted answer, if you don't think that's valuable information for many programmers out there then I'm at a loss of words.

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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post #2

Even better when you post a question to stackoverflow and a moderator closes it with "this question should be on xyz.stackexchange.com". You remove your question and post it there just to get another moderator saying "this question should be on stackoverflow". It's obviously a great site, but as always most moderators are usually people with more spare time than real clue on how to organize things.

"Which site do I submit to" shouldn't be as hard of a problem for certain.

Heck they removed a lot of options from that close reason to minimize this, as anything database related go punted to the DBA one (which is only for professional questions not minor schema questions).

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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I used to love SO, but nowadays the proportion of assholes running the site is so big that it ruins everything. To give you an example, check out the last question I've asked there: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27510345/c-map-assignment... . 11 downvotes and closed within a few hours; apparently I pissed off one of the moderators (when asking him why is my question "off-topic") and he invited his gang to downvo…

haha..gangs of Stackoverflow huh..i can see that happening..i dont have many friends thgh SO but I agree people groupup through SO chat rooms..

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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I don't have a problem with Stack Overflow, I have a problem with its community and, as a result, have completely abandoned the site. I no longer ask questions there nor do I answer them. If I need help my circle of friends is often able to provide enough information for me and if I take to Google the vast majority of the time the first search result is a link to a Stack Overflow page with someone asking the exact question I'm trying to find an answer to. And it's closed as off topic. It's a great site and for a while had a great community, but these days it's just too toxic to be worth the bother.

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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To me, I see this strange contradiction in how stackoverflow is evolving. Joel Spolsky (one of the founders) gave a very interesting presentation[1] in 2009. The key takeaway I've always remembered from his comments was the idea of "anthropology". The science of trying to really understand human behavior and make the website amplify good communities.

What I see 6 years later is a lot of "why is this question closed as 'not constructive' when it has 500 upvotes?!?!"

There is clearly a disconnect between the way the end users see stackoverflow and the way the moderators see it. These days, it seems like the stackoverflow guys (not necessarily Joel specifically) are inexplicably blind to human behaviors that was was highlighted in 2009. But, I don't have the whole story so maybe someone closer to the situation can explain.

I don't know who is right or wrong. The thing I'd like to know is if stackoverflow still "works" for the quality contributors who invest their time writing extensive and insightful answers. Or, have a significant percentage abandoned the site because they wade through too many questions from homework, or outsourced sweatshop employees who don't even do modicum of googling, etc.

On the other hand, are the majority of complaints distorted because they are mostly voiced by the Eternal September[2] crowd?

So, is it experts leaving? Or newcomers overwhelming the site with bad questions? I don't know if one can gather from website analytics which of the 2 situations is dominant.

[1]http://youtu.be/NWHfY_lvKIQ?t=3m18s

[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

Re: My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow

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Even better when you post a question to stackoverflow and a moderator closes it with "this question should be on xyz.stackexchange.com". You remove your question and post it there just to get another moderator saying "this question should be on stackoverflow". It's obviously a great site, but as always most moderators are usually people with more spare time than real clue on how to organize things.

"Which site do I submit to" shouldn't be as hard of a problem for certain. Heck they removed a lot of options from that close reason to minimize this, as anything database related go punted to the DBA one (which is only for professional questions not minor schema questions).

Only problem with the sister sites is that their user base is much smaller than on SO and the value of SO pretty much boils down to "everyone's in there so someone may help me".
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