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Re: Why life is absurd

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post #101

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>(more accurately: we cannot infer an Ought from an Is). Oughts cannot mean anything in the first place unless they ultimately reduce to some kind of is-checkable fact.

This would give you Nihilism. Theism disagrees.

>This would give you Nihilism.

The Is-Ought Problem and the Open Question Argument are not so conclusive as to justify nihilism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism

Re: Why life is absurd

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post #96

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The historical problem is too many children surviving childhood. The oldest son gets the farm, the youngest gets nothing. The solutions have been things like: - subdivide the property (not sustainable) - The younger son goes to the military, or the frontier, or... - The younger son courts a daughter in a family with no sons

There are only three possible outcomes. - Increase the death rate (war, disease, etc) - Establish an equilibrium and plan for a given number of living beings, preventing the formation of new ones until there are free resources. (Attempting to defy this will lead to the previous or next outcome.) - Expand in to new areas to provide more SPACE!

It's a historical problem, it's already been solved in developing countries. Nothing drastic, just dropping the birth rate below 2.1.

Re: Why life is absurd

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The historical problem is too many children surviving childhood. The oldest son gets the farm, the youngest gets nothing. The solutions have been things like: - subdivide the property (not sustainable) - The younger son goes to the military, or the frontier, or... - The younger son courts a daughter in a family with no sons

There are only three possible outcomes. - Increase the death rate (war, disease, etc) - Establish an equilibrium and plan for a given number of living beings, preventing the formation of new ones until there are free resources. (Attempting to defy this will lead to the previous or next outcome.) - Expand in to new areas to provide more SPACE!

It's a historical problem, it's already been solved in developing countries. Nothing drastic, just dropping the birth rate below 2.1.

Re: Why life is absurd

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post #102

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>The universe is indifferent to us being around or extinct. So what? I fail to understand how this supposedly renders our lives more or less meaningful.

If (universe==indifferent) meaning=null; Anecdotally speaking most people get through their day to day tasks thinking that somehow it all matters in the end. If nothing really matters, and best you can do is be your own little streetlight(to paraphase Kubrick) you are faced with the problem on what to choose as your meaning. Pick anything, it will do. That is scary.

> If (universe==indifferent) meaning=null;

Why?

Re: Why life is absurd

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But why do you think productivity is any less absurd than non-productivity? And why is intelligence relevant to absurdity? Is a butterfly's life any more absurd than a human's? Humans and humanity don't have goals. The universe is indifferent to us being around or extinct. And it is certainly not our goal to be creative, productive, efficient. We make up goals for ourselves to give subjective meaning to our lives, an…

>The universe is indifferent to us being around or extinct. So what? I fail to understand how this supposedly renders our lives more or less meaningful.

It makes the meaning of "meaning" self-referential. Usually, when we say that something has meaning, we mean it is significant to something external to it. If the most external thing at all does not consider our existence significant, then "meaning" becomes entirely subjective: something is defined to have meaning if we convince ourselves it does. Some may think that's not much. Others think that if that's as far as we can go, then that is everything.

Re: Why life is absurd

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The explanation of this and the question contradicts each other. Life is absurd, but if you really believe that then you should also know that you can't tell WHY!

Every human must experience and keep on experiencing or otherwise taking your life might be more less painful than living it.

Re: Why life is absurd

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Absurdism [1] is one of three philosophical doctrines (along with existentialism [2] and nihilism [3]) that try to reconcile the fact that we live in a meaningless universe when our human tendency is to seek value and meaning in life.

Existentialism argues that we create our own meaning by living life and exercising our free will. Nihilism counters that there is no meaning and so nothing matters. Absurdism is the acceptance that life is ridiculous and by defiantly laughing at it we can live authentically.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

Re: Why life is absurd

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post #102

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If (universe==indifferent) meaning=null; Anecdotally speaking most people get through their day to day tasks thinking that somehow it all matters in the end. If nothing really matters, and best you can do is be your own little streetlight(to paraphase Kubrick) you are faced with the problem on what to choose as your meaning. Pick anything, it will do. That is scary.

> If (universe==indifferent) meaning=null; Why?

Because that implies man is free to make up their own meaning.

No natural law, no nothing -> pure chaos

Put it another way, indifferent universe strongly points to us being a complete accident, our qualia so cherished by us just an absurd joke.

So meaning being null means there is no ultimate answer not even 42.

Re: Why life is absurd

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I will never forget a lottery winner statement. She won a huge amount of money in the lotttery. She went out to dinner with her family to celebrate. The next morning her husband woke up in complete liver failure. Both were MD's and her final statement at the end of the interview was "Life is truly random." I think about that quote too often.

Yep but there's statistics that are pretty reliable.

There's perfectly reliable statistics for a fair coin toss. Doesn't make it any less random.
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