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Megaupload programmer goes to prison for one year

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My guess is that their strategy is to create a chilling effect by making an example of this guy. From their perspective, if smart people become more frightened to take on projects like this, their money was well spent. $10M is lunch money here.

This is the most logical explanation that I know of, also considering what happened to PopcornTime.

Reference please, I missed the PopcornTime drama.

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By that logic, authors of filesystems, ssh, TCP/IP should go to jail. Quick, let's sue the Oxford dictionary! Military style raid on DARPA for inventing the internet! Oh, wait ... that's the military. Can't we have our cake and eat it too? Talk about political sham oldboy network rent-a-justice. Legal systems need to be decentralized, their interpretation and processes transparent. Perhaps a forward thinking country like Ecuador might be up for the challenge? I exclude Estonia as they are embroiled too much in EU legalese to have much of a chance of a running escape.

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This just seems ridiculous to me. I may well get downvoted, but it needs saying. Why do 99% of the world's governments seem completely retarded when it comes to copyright laws? How many tens of millions in legal resources were expended in bringing 'justice' here? And what does the outcome even matter? Good job, tens of millions down the drain for one year of an Estonian's time? The system would surely be better serve…

I work in Law Enforcement, so feel to disregard my opinion as biased , however, 75% of my work relates to child exploitation material, and an enormous amount of child abuse material disappeared from easy access when mega-upload went down. I used to find computers with lists and lists of megaupload urls. When that method died out a little beacon of happy shone for me. Now I understand that free movies trumps removing abusive material, and as rapidshare and others took a more reasoned approach the child abuse material slipped into TOR and then i2p (after we brought the house down repeatedly on lolitacity and similar places in TOR). So it was more of a temporary reprieve. But those still at it have to work a bit harder and I'm happy about that. It's all about the free movies right? Well if that's your world, you're lucky.

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It seems to infuriate me and make me more likely to ask to be payed in cash when doing business with companies that seem to be in the gray area of the law. But in no way will I cave to this mafia style behavior. Do I now risk going to jail if any of the people o worked with use my software for something illegal?

>It seems to [...] make me more likely to ask to be payed in cash when doing business with companies that seem to be in the gray area of the law. Money paid in cash still needs to show up in the books of the company and your tax statement. If it doesn't, you just handed them another opportunity to make you hang - tax fraud is nothing to trifle with.

It will be on the books but maybe as something else.

I don't mind paying tax but I'd rather not get arrested for something a person I do business with did.

This is the chilling effect this kind of behavior by the state has.

It make people less willing to share real information with the government since it could potentially get them arrested just to make an example of them.

It's all about trust and this kind of behavior makes me not trust the government or the law.

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Yet every single one of the bankers who brought the world economy to the brink of collapse walks free, enjoying the fruits of his labour. The system works.

Please, give it a rest on this "banker" polemic nonsense.

why ?

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I really dislike the extra-territorial aspect of it. From what I understand the Netherlands copyright law is more lenient than the US law. For instance downloading copyrighted material was legal until very recently. So downloading something from Megaupload was hardly a crime there... http://www.zdnet.com/article/downloading-pirate-material-fin... So you could do something which is legal, or illegal but not criminal o…

Also imprisoning people who are not a danger to society in any way shape or form is very modern American. And socially destructive.

I could argue (though don't really agree) that Andrus Nomm was a threat in the same way as Bernie Madoff. Neither was running around shooting people or starting fires. The same could be said for elderly war criminals.

There are situations in which it is right to send people to prison without them posing an active and dangerous threat. Whether this in one of those situations is more arguable.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the most logical explanation that I know of, also considering what happened to PopcornTime.

Reference please, I missed the PopcornTime drama.

[Repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown.] https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app

Re: Megaupload programmer goes to prison for one year

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This just seems ridiculous to me. I may well get downvoted, but it needs saying. Why do 99% of the world's governments seem completely retarded when it comes to copyright laws? How many tens of millions in legal resources were expended in bringing 'justice' here? And what does the outcome even matter? Good job, tens of millions down the drain for one year of an Estonian's time? The system would surely be better serve…

I work in Law Enforcement, so feel to disregard my opinion as biased , however, 75% of my work relates to child exploitation material, and an enormous amount of child abuse material disappeared from easy access when mega-upload went down. I used to find computers with lists and lists of megaupload urls. When that method died out a little beacon of happy shone for me. Now I understand that free movies trumps removing…

If people are involved in the transmission of child abuse, I'm happy for them to be prosecuted for that.

I'm not happy with the approach of prosecuting people for copyright infringement and then claiming they deserve it because of the child abuse material. That's a bait-and-switch.

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